Episode 14

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Published on:

1st Nov 2022

Emily Lynch Cupelli | Develop Your Craft - Nashville songwriter shares insights on how to improve your craft

Today we are talking with the singer-songwriter, Emily Lynch Capelli. Over the past ten years, she has written songs with some of Nashville's most well know writers and even featured Vince Gill on her last album. Check out the show as she talks about how to make it in the music business and how to develop your craft.

Find Emily's Music Here: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/emily-lynch/416670411

"Hand Me Downs" Single: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ey7lRb6ED4

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Dallas Burnett:

Hey, everybody.

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Well, Coach D's got a little bit of laryngitis today, but no worries.

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The show must go on.

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We are talking to Emily Lynch, Capelli today.

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She is an amazing person.

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She's been a professional songwriter, a touring musician, worship leader.

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She's a great new friend of mine.

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You don't wanna miss.

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This conversation.

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Welcome to the last 10%.

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Your host, Dallas Burnett, dives into incredible conversations that

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will inspire you to finish well, finish well and finish strong.

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Finish strong.

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Listen as guests share their journeys and valuable advice on living in the last 10%.

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If you are a leader, a coach, a business owner, or someone looking to level.

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You are in the right place.

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Remember, you can give 90% effort and make it a long way, but it's finding

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out how to unlock the last 10% that makes all the difference in your life,

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your relationships, and your work.

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Now here's Dallas.

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the last 10%.

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I am Dallas.

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I'm in Thrive Studios, sitting in my 1905 Koch Brothers Barber chair.

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More importantly, talking to Emily Lynch.

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Capelli Today, professional songwriter, has an album, has

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featured Vince Gill on it, has had a really, really well known artist.

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Just pick up her latest song, which we'll get to in just a minute.

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But man, we're just so excited to have you on the show.

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Welcome to the last 10%, Emily.

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So honored to be here.

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Awesome.

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We just want to hear, I would love for you to tell the listeners, you know, you know,

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what was your process and what was it like when you actually got into songwriting?

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You've written with some great songwriters, you've got some great

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songs out, cut your own albums.

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You're an artist as well.

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Tell us the process that went from like, you know, nothing, not really aware of the

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music business to professional songwriter.

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How did that kind of weave in and out?

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Thinking back to when I first started writing

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songs, I was always creative.

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You know, it's funny to just think back how everybody had influences.

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I dated a guy who wrote poetry and that like influenced me to write.

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And then, you know, in college I taught myself a, my dad taught me

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a few chords on the guitar and.

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I literally couldn't play the songs I wanted to play cuz I couldn't

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play a B minor or whatever it was.

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So I was like, well darn, I'm gonna start writing songs with the chords.

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I do know . So, you know, that got me going.

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And then I remember the first song I wrote, I showed it to my parents, I

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was in high school and, and my dad was like, Well that's cool, that's good,

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but you're gonna have to write a lot more if you wanna be like Dolly Parton.

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. Anyway, I played sports, I did a lot of things.

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So kind of, you know, dabbled here and there with songwriting.

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It wasn't till my senior year I was at Clemson, I was a communications major.

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I was trying to decide what I was gonna do when I graduated and talked

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to our internship coordinator and he's like, Well, what do you wanna do?

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And I was like, Well, you know, I really wanna sing and make music

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Which of course, you know, that's, it takes a lot of courage

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to even say that out loud.

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So that was the first time I was like, Ugh, okay, what are we gonna do here?

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And he hooked me up with a internship.

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With a local studio in Greenville at the time it was called OMG Entertainment.

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OMG.

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Yeah.

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Edwin McCain's group there.

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Yeah.

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Edwin McCain's Studio and Jean Crisilick, um, was the president of the little label.

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They had a band called Chase.

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It was a Christian band that was doing pretty good.

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So I mean, I literally went and took out the trash.

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I did all the brunt work.

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Jean, you know, I got to know him and he started giving me more

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responsibility to listen through music, you know, on my space and all

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the other platforms where local bands were putting out music and to just kind

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of sift through CDs and stuff that.

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People had brought to him and um, so I got more experience

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with the business through that.

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He did allow me to use the studio to record a few songs, which,

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oh my gosh, they're so bad.

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But I got that first experience, you know?

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Anyway, I talked with him a lot and he was like, you know, I have a

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friend in Atlanta who's a producer who likes to work with developing.

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You know, his name was Dan Hannon.

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I graduated from Clemson.

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I moved to Charlotte cuz my parents were there.

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I tried to find a big girl job that didn't work out, so I ended up

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moving there and working part-time at a church leading worship there.

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And had met Dan, who's in Atlanta, a producer, and had a couple of just

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meetings with him, and he started giving me some homework for how to develop my

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craft and how to develop as an artist.

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I was over here in Charlotte developing as a.

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Performer as an artist, as a musician, leading worship

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for kids with high schoolers.

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So, you know, learning how to be on a stage, learning how to play with

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a band, like not a good band , but still just learning how to talk.

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And that was going on and, and I only recognize all this in hindsight,

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Julie, I don't really know that I knew all this was happening at the time.

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I was developing over here making some money.

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That developed into a full-time job, so I did have some good income coming

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in and then traveling to Atlanta and writing songs with Dan and he was.

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We were talking on the phone.

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I mean, it was daily and he was challenging me to write a song every day.

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That's hard.

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That's actually hard.

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You know, there's some days it just doesn't come.

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I mean, that's a discipline practice, you know, a song a day.

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It was definitely growing just at a faster pace

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than normal because I had, at the time, I, that was my sole focus.

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I mean, I had nothing else except for music and my job, and I was.

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Live at home at that time.

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So I wasn't, it was kind of sad.

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I really just didn't have much of a life, so I was going home and writing

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. Dallas Burnett: I would just love to

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doing this, You know, you said, I just really didn't have a life at the time.

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I'm just going home every night and writing music.

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But did it feel like that to you or did it feel like invigorating

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to be developing your craft?

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I mean, or is it like, some days there are grind and some days

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are great or it was like, No, I, Every day even bad days were good.

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How, what was your mindset in that period?

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Oh man.

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No bad days were great.

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It was, um, , I, I was just soaking it up because, you know, I grew up in a home.

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We all love music.

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My dad played by ear, guitar, piano, sang, my mom played piano,

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sang I wasn't a student of music.

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We listened to whatever was on the radio.

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I didn't really know what a good songwriter was.

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I, I never studied.

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You know, and Dan was sending me albums.

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I mean, he was, I just dove hard into Patty Griffin, who's one of my favorite

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artists, started really recognizing like what great songs were, and that is just

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as important as writing it may be more important, is listening to good stuff and

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really, you know, growing in that, in your taste and learning how to put your story.

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I mean, Dan Hannon was.

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Such a critical part of my development and growth, and he would not only

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challenge me, but he would encourage, I knew he believed in me, so that

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lit a fire under me for sure.

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That's super important though when you're

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starting out, especially in the music business, the dream industry of

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the music business, because there's plenty of people, I mean like.

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Layers and layers of people that will come in and dash your hopes and dreams

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and just like pour cold water on anything you've done in terms of creative process.

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So to have somebody that's backing you, that's developing you in your corner,

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it's like throwing gasoline on the fire.

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It just keeps you going and kind of keeps you trudging through the, through some

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of the mess, you know, in the industry.

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It's a gift and it's part of Dan's calling is just that

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he just loves working with developing acts and he's got a gift for it.

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So I'm just thankful.

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You know, our paths crossed and he took time with me and we'd kind of hit it off.

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Just, we enjoyed working together.

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We were good.

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You know, you, it's in music.

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Somebody, my husband makes fun of me for saying this, but I remember

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somebody said this and it's so true, like, Half of it's about, you know,

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writing a good song together or producing good music together, whatever.

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But really half is of just about the hang . Yeah.

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Just about how much do we enjoy hanging out with each other, you know?

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That's so true.

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Isn't it true though?

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Cuz I mean, it's, at the end of the day, you just kind of hit it off with

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certain people and you just enjoy it and you have this bond connection through

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music, through songwriting, but it makes it so much easier when you're just

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hanging out, just enjoying each other and then get to write some songs too.

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Who doesn't like this?

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What's not to like?

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This is awesome.

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. That's awesome.

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That's cool.

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I like that.

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So he pushes you and you co-write with him and you're moving forward.

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What was the point where you were like, did you get to the point

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where you're like, I'm at a place in my development where I think I'm

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ready to take it to the next level?

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What did that look like after you've been meeting with Dan and going forward?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

We recorded a, a little EP album.

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It was just a Christian niche, kind of Christian country type deal, five songs.

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That was a good kinda like foundation for me.

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And then he started putting me with other artists in Atlanta.

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We started co-writing.

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So I would go to Atlanta, have, I mean, it was insane.

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I would have like three hour blocks of different writers and it was just

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like speed dating, you know, Or I don't know the right analogy, but it.

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Speed development and, and we wrote toward a debut full length album

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was what we were writing toward.

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For me, it wasn't trying to be a songwriter at that point.

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It was, you know, we're trying to be an artist and do a record.

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Micah da Nathan Angelo, Ryan Horn, trying to think like a lot of local Atlanta

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guys who are still my good friends today.

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And then Dan and I continued to write and we wrote a whole first full length album.

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I was able to finance that myself.

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You know, again, just living at home and working, but also doing this on the side.

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It was just really a cool experience.

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But it wasn't until after we made that album that's just debut self-titled album.

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That was amazing.

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But I felt like, looking back on it, it was, I was being held up

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by a lot of other, Great writers and musicians and everything.

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It was my first experience truly recording like with band and all of that.

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And so then that, it really gave me a love for co-writing and songs in general.

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And so then I, The Nashville story is kind of a evolution of a lot of

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other pieces that came together.

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But You want me to go there, ? I can just dive in.

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I'm trying to think.

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So I had Dan, you know, I had all these Atlanta guys and then.

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I had, my mom's family is from Sumpter, South Carolina, so small town, Sumpter.

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You know, there were two guys that had made it big and music out of

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Sumpter, and one was Rob Crosby.

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He's an artist songwriter.

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Had number one songs with Martina McBride and my family knew him and he was.

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I'm not really afraid to call people.

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So I picked up the phone, and I called Rob Crosby and I said, or maybe I emailed

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him, I can't remember, but I was like, you know, I'm gonna come to Nashville.

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I had justified a trip because I was like, a guy from high school lived

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there and I was gonna, he had a place I could stay and then there was, Dan

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had set me up with a couple of guys and then Rob, I was gonna meet with him and

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then, um, anyway, it was just kind of this, Okay, we're going to nashville.

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And Rob was really the most professional guy that I got the chance to talk with and

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we had breakfast that first meeting and he was like, Well, let me hear some music.

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And I, I showed him some music.

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I think this is a lesson of like, you gotta have good songs and you

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gotta have something, some raw talent to be able to get in rooms with

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people, but then you also just have to like take the step of calling.

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Seeing what happens.

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And so he was like, Well that's write.

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We hit it off.

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And we wrote, um, a lot.

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And then he's like, Well, I want you to meet so and so.

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And then it, that's how it happens in Nashville.

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It just starts snowballing.

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So then I, you know, started meeting with other people and they know people.

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And then really how it gets is to where, well, if my friend's telling

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me about you, you must be good.

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So I'm gonna sit with you.

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It's a small world.

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It's like this community, once you break in, it's like everybody knows everybody.

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It's unbelievable the networks that in that town.

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It's incredible.

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And I like it because when you talk about it, you're talking about it like, um, you

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are ambitious in terms of calling Rob.

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And you were like, I'm gonna take the step.

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But it's not like you did that when you moved to Charlotte and you're like, Hey,

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I'm leading worship with this, you know, at this church with the kids department.

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I think I'll call Rob.

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It was like you took.

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An amazing step.

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You took amazing jumps in your career.

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You were going and doing the work way beforehand, going to Atlanta.

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You had already produced a whole album of songs and worked on

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your craft for all this time.

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And then at that point where you felt like, Hey, my stuff is definitely maturing

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and I'm maturing as an artist, as a writer, all right, now I'm gonna call Rob.

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You know, So it's, I love how that went.

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And so I had, you know, totally him, like tracking with everything you're saying

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because I, my experience was very similar.

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I started.

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Guitar in high school and was inspired by some artists that were just rock solid

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songwriters, and you just kind of, and I totally had no life, you know, and

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sit at home and, and write songs on.

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I would have no problem doing that on a Friday night whatsoever.

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It's very cool.

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So you tap into this network in Nashville, you're meeting with Rob, then

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he introduced you, all his friends, and you start building this network in n.

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How does that progress?

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It was like, you know, Dan had, I knew that I wanted

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to meet with some publishers and I wanted to meet with ASCAP was my p o,

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so my performance rights organization.

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At that point, I hadn't gotten paid for anything, but I was a member , my

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dad signed me up when I was 16.

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Hilarious.

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Oh my gosh.

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How about that?

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So, you know, I had some understanding of how all that worked and I was

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learning about co-writing and learning about how you can, other

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people can record your songs.

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And I enjoyed being an artist, but I really love the idea of not

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having to be the face of the song.

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And I am an artist, but I just, when it came to the commercial thing,

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I found that a bit exhausting.

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And so at that point, I think I was having some revelation of like,

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okay, this is, this is a huge.

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Commitment, and I wanna have a family.

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I wanna be married.

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I'm a homebody at heart, you know?

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And I was just kind of like, eh, I don't know how far I wanna dive into being the

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artist, but I, you know, I would love to write songs and be in this industry.

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So one of the key things that happened as I got to know people was ASCAP.

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Leanne Faylem, she's a big awesome lady in Nashville.

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She was the leader.

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I can't even think of what her title was, but she was a big person at ascap.

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She had just gotten that job because BMI and ASCAP are like the two

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big pros, and BMI was crushing it.

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Let us talk one second about what that is.

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For our listeners that are not familiar with the business of music, when you

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say BMI and ASCAP and P R O, what you're saying is BMI and ASCAP actually are

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the ones that if a song is played on the radio, Or on Spotify or anything

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like that, anywhere in the world that payment is sent to these entities.

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And these entities then distribute those funds to the artists

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that they represent their cuts.

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So it's almost like the pace.

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So if you're a songwriter, you're very interested in these organizations

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because these are essentially the people that cut your check.

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If your song goes on the billboard charts and it's number five or number two,

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or number one, That money doesn't just show up in your mailbox, it goes through

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these two large organizations and then it pushes down to the actual writer.

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Yeah.

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Csac is another one.

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It's a little bit smaller, but um, yeah, so they all have different,

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they're very much the same.

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I feel like they ebb and flow, but the percentages of the payouts, you

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know, might ebb and flow and BMI might give a little more one year, but ASCAP

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might give a little, one more one year.

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They have different leadership come, you know, it's business.

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At the time I was with ASCAP and I had done an artist's showcase and my

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friend, I had a friend who had done a BMI showcase and I had gone to the BMI

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Showcase and it was like so much better.

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They were really talking about the artist.

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They were playing it up.

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There was like press.

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It was really good.

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The ASCAP one just felt like such a letdown.

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I was a little bit of a fiery, not and not disrespectful or anything, but I was

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just like, I had some courage I guess.

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I was vocal about how disappointed I was and that I was considering

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jumping ship and going to bmi.

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And Tracy Gurshon, she's another just amazing manager, She's managed

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tons of bands in Nashville, Talent Finder, worked with Faith Hill and

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anyway, she was managing my friend.

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I talked to her and she's like, Well, before you jump ship, why

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don't you meet with Lee Ann?

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She just got this job and she's really has a good vision to turn ascap.

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So I started meeting with Lee Ann and she became a champion for me.

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So she started a program for ascap, young unsigned ASCAP writers that

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were identified by publishers or you know, people in the industry.

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And it is called the GPS program.

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And I forgot what that stood for.

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Gps, it was something, But you meet with two publishers each month.

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It's like you have an initial meeting and then you have a follow up meeting

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and the publishers are all on board to meet with you and give you good feedback.

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And anyways, this whole, whole setup thing for a year.

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So I was asked to be a part of that program.

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It's funny, the other people in my class, Hailey Whis, she's

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an artist, country artist who's just put out a couple records.

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She was in my GPS class.

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Ryan heard, he was a good friend of mine.

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We were in that class together.

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There was another guy, oh, I'm blanking on his name, but he's an artist now.

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So anyway, it's just really cool to.

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Where everybody went because there was such good talent in that class.

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But anyway, that was a huge jump off for me cuz I continued to

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meet more people through that.

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You know, I got big meetings that I probably wouldn't have been able to get

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otherwise with, you know, the bigger names, Sony Warner Chapel, all the

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people and go to shows with people.

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Just build relationships and so, yeah.

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I wanna take a second though and just share

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with the listeners, like, I don't think most people realize this.

Dallas Burnett:

I think that people have assumed.

Dallas Burnett:

The music business is like you just put something out on YouTube or

Dallas Burnett:

you, you know, win American Idol and all of a sudden you're this,

Dallas Burnett:

you know, the next biggest thing.

Dallas Burnett:

And they hear and they see these artists that come out and they're like

Dallas Burnett:

quote unquote overnight successes.

Dallas Burnett:

And the people in the business know and have seen them working

Dallas Burnett:

it out for over a decade.

Dallas Burnett:

It's unbelievable the amount of work and effort to become

Dallas Burnett:

a quote, overnight success.

Dallas Burnett:

Just hearing you talk about the process and all the effort

Dallas Burnett:

you put in behind the scenes.

Dallas Burnett:

We're not even talking about writing at this point.

Dallas Burnett:

We're talking about networking and we're talking about understanding the,

Dallas Burnett:

the structure of the business and we're talking about finding champions in

Dallas Burnett:

the industry and getting in front of publishers and navigating all these,

Dallas Burnett:

these circles that you're doing for years.

Dallas Burnett:

I'll have a lot of respect for you on that and other artists, cuz.

Dallas Burnett:

I don't think most people understand how hard and how much work it is to

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break in and break through like that.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I never moved to Nashville, which is probably a lot of

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people would say was my biggest mistake.

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But you know, we all have our own path.

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But it's interesting cuz in those days I was writing with Nicole

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Gallion and I remember sitting with her and she's written most

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of that Miranda Lambert album.

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But I mean, I remember writing with her at that time, she was asking.

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How to do an artist thing and how to put out a record.

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Cuz I had done that.

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I remember her saying, you know, we just don't have a lot of money.

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How do we do?

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You know?

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And now she's like, just killing it.

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And so it's just cool to see Haley Whis.

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I mean, I remember talking to her and you know, they called

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Nashville a 10 year town.

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I feel like it is nothing short of that.

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It takes time.

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You know, Even Marrin, Morris, like I remember meeting her in a publishing house

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and she was writing for other artists and.

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All of a sudden she decided she wanted to do something for herself.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Ryan heard, he was not an artist, he just was a great songwriter, great friend.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

He co-wrote one of the songs on my album with me.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

But you know, I remember when he decided he wanted to be an artist, and I mean,

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it's years and years and years after.

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You know when people are like, Well, maybe I'll put out my own stuff or

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whatever, and then all of a sudden you're hearing them on the radio,

Emily Lynch Capelli:

but they've been grinding for.

Dallas Burnett:

Now you've got this album, now you've got Vince Gill featured on

Dallas Burnett:

How do You Get Vince Gill on your album?

Dallas Burnett:

I mean, this is incredible.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

God is so good.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Just all the networking.

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It's so fun to think back on this, you know, so the way that the publishing

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world works in Nashville, Really all the worlds, but you're, Hey, I think you

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would work really well with so and so.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Hey, I think you would work really well with so-and-so.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So you're, you're getting set up with people that you've never met.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And it's such a normal thing.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

It would be, it's not very normal in the real world, but for co-writing,

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you know, you say, Oh, hey, I'm Emily.

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What's your name?

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You know, you talk about your, whatever's going on, you kind of try to make a

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connection and then you write a song,

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Hopefully that's the goal.

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So anyway, I got to do that with a ton of amazing people and one of them ended

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up being, um, Vince Gill's daughter.

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And so we kind of hit it off.

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And the fir, I remember the first day she was like, the publisher called us and she

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said, um, Hey, all of our rooms are full.

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Do y'all have somewhere else you can write?

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Which if I would've lived there, she could've just come over to my house

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or whatever, but I didn't live there.

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So she's like, Hey, my house is being renovated.

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Let's just meet at my dad's house, . So I'm like, Oh, meet at your dad's house.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Okay.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So yeah, we met over there and we wrote a song up in one of the rooms and she was

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married, had had her own house, had kid, and anyway, we come downstairs to get

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some water and Amy Grants in the kitchen.

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It was wild.

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I mean, I was just, Talking with her in the kitchen, and Vince came in and

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I had actually talked to Vince on the phone through another friend because

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when we were dreaming about this, you know, collaboration, you know, I mean the

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connections are coming from everywhere.

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But I got to hug his neck and he was just sitting on the couch playing guitar.

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And I was like, Hey, I'm Emily.

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We talked and we, you know, he gave me a big hug and we just chatted

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for a moment, but, so, so cool.

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And Jenny and I wrote a few more times, and actually when Amy was opening for,

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I think it was Steven, Curtis Chapman here in Greenville, Jenny got up,

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my husband and I some tickets and we got to go backstage and Amy was like,

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Oh, Emily, I thought that was you.

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Hey.

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And Kimmy gave me a big hug and.

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Oh my goodness, my like 12 year old self is dying

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. Dallas Burnett: That is, I know.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Isn't that the truth though?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

You do feel like that?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I was in school with Lee Bryce, and we were actually playing together

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in college, and so one day I'm going over to his apartment, I show up,

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we're practicing for this thing, we're gonna play downtown or whatever, and

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he'd been telling me for a while.

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He's like, Man, I'm gonna go to Nashville.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I'm gonna go to Nashville.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I'm like, All right, man, whatever.

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Just you're a junior.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Let's just, let's just graduate and then we'll go, Well, we'll all go.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

You know?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Let's do, let.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Well, I show up his apartment and his roommate's sitting there and

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he's like, Uh, at least not here.

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I'm like, Well, I can see that all his stuff's gone.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I was like, Where did he move across town and did he get better rent?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

You know, whatever.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

He's like, Nah, he left.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

He's, I said, Well, where'd he go?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

He's like, He left.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

He went to Nashville last night and just packed up his car and drove to Nashville.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I was like, It's like mid-semester, bro.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Are you serious?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

He's like, Yeah, he's done.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

He's gone to.

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And so I lost connection.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

You know, I didn't have a, you know, cell phone for him or anything like that.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And then we reconnected about four or five years later and he had just signed an,

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um, songwriting deal with Aris of Records.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And then about a year and a half after that he, he was able

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to get his own record deal.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

He came in tour and he was open up for some.

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Female artist.

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And he came back to Clemson in Little John, and it was, they had just

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cut Little John in half, so it was only just a few thou, like maybe a

Emily Lynch Capelli:

couple thousand people at the most.

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And he's playing the opening act for some female artist.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I can't remember.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

But anyway, I emailed him and said, Bro, I got to come and see you.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And he, he did the same thing.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

He was like, All right, come on up.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So we hopped in the car, drove up and saw me.

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He brought us backstage and was like, Hey man.

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And we were sitting in the back, in the girls' women's basketball locker

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room hanging out before the show.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

It was so much.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

But you're just sitting there like, this is the best.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

This is awesome.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So you're in Vince Gill's house, you're talking to him.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

He ends up, you know, doing this song with you, like features is

Emily Lynch Capelli:

featured on your song on this album.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

This album is, this is your second, this would be your second album.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Did you fund that as well, or did you go through another

Emily Lynch Capelli:

label or, Or how did that work?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Well, this is a crazy situation.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So my first album, Was released in 2011.

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My self-titled album that I did with Dan between 2011 and 2015.

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Those years I was really, really in the Nashville world and I was

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writing for other people, but also, I mean, songs that I loved.

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I hit a point where I just felt like I was.

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I had had a lot of, almost, you know, I had had a lot of songs on hold and fell

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through or whatever, and I was, okay.

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I had gotten married in 2012, so I was living in Greenville.

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You know, I felt like it wasn't moving as fast as I wanted it to, you know, I

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wasn't having any major cuts and I had been asked to lead worship at some stuff.

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Like I'd always led worship at women's events.

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You know, it's just to be able to play guitar and sing at women's events.

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I did a lot of.

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Women's retreats and stuff like that.

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So I remember feeling this kind of like, Well, maybe I

Emily Lynch Capelli:

should do a project for myself.

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And it like, I know who I am as an artist a lot more now than I did then.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I know who I am as a songwriter.

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You know, I feel like I'm getting more life out of writing songs.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Out of the overflow of, of my heart fully for myself versus trying to

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write a commercial song for this guy who's, you know, country radio

Emily Lynch Capelli:

is such a bro thing right now.

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I was like, Ugh, I can only do that.

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It's something that I could enjoy, but I just wasn't, Oh, you know,

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for years on end it was like, okay.

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And that wasn't all that I was writing, but you know, I just felt

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a sort of a tug of like, well, maybe I could do something for myself.

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I had this other author friend who was writing, and we had talked about doing

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some events together and really thinking about, okay, how could we leverage

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our gifts and do something that is.

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Makes money that we can make some money, we can have something

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to offer people, you know?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Anyway, it really inspired me to start writing for an album for myself.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And I had a, you know, I probably had 25 or so songs that I was, I

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was thinking about that would be fitting for that, and the vision

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for it was kind of coming together.

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And then I was like, Well, how the heck am I gonna pay for this , You know, I wanted

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to do, I wanted to record it in Nashville.

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We had recorded my other one in Atlanta.

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I just knew a lot more, so I was able to dream a little bigger.

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I was playing the 30 a songwriter festival, which is, I had played every

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year in Santa Rosa Beach, Florida, and I had, the first year I played

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it, I, they had set me up with this couple to stay in their guest house.

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They just housed all the artists that way.

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So I got to meet this couple amazing couple, Bill and Renee in Florida.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

They're like huge music fans and Bill is just like such a sweet little

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nerdy guy who just loved my music.

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And so they came to all my shows down there.

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And anyway, after I think this was like the third year, I had stayed with them

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and played that in January my husband was with me and I had been thinking about

Emily Lynch Capelli:

doing a Kickstarter, you know, raising money for a campaign, for an album.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And you know, I just felt so, I think those are great.

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I've given to those, but I just felt.

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Ugh.

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I just didn't feel like that was the right thing for me.

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And I literally, you know, woke up and I remember telling my husband, I was like,

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I'm not gonna do a Kickstarter if this album is meant to happen, the Lord, it

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will provide and it will just happen.

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And I mean, I was just full of faith and like it's gonna happen.

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So went through our day, I played whatever show I was playing.

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And then that night we were hanging out in Bill and Renee's house and

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they had gotten home and it was late.

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I mean, it was probably after midnight cuz the shows had gone late.

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And Bill's like, Well Emily, when are you gonna make another record?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And I was like, Well, it's funny.

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Like I'm ready for it.

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I just don't know how I'm gonna fund it.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Like, I've got songs, I'm, I'm ready.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I'm excited about it.

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And I just said that in an honest.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

You know, that was what was happening.

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And he was like, Well, I'll pay for it

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And I was like, Okay, well you don't know what you're offering,

Emily Lynch Capelli:

but, you know, and it, it was late.

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I mean, I, you know, I think they had had some drinks and so I was

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just taking everything with a grain of salt, you know, like, okay.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And, um, and he's like, No, I'm serious.

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Write me a proposal.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Let's talk about this.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And so, The next morning, you know, I think I was just like, Are you serious?

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You know, this is expensive, you know, to do it right.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

You know, what do you, Anyway, he was like, Well, send me a proposal.

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So my husband helped me, you know, write up a proposal and, um, with

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all the costs, and I talked with one of the, my songwriter friends in

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Atlanta, or in Nashville, Ben Cooper.

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He was doing some production and I felt like at this point in my career, I really

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wanted to have a hand in the production of it, so we were gonna co-produce it.

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He was also, you know, not a big name producer, so I could get away

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with doing it for cheaper and.

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Anyway, Bill and Renee put up 25 grand for me to do that album.

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So just crazy.

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And you know, they won't see that money again, . But they had a blast.

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They came in the studio with me, they recorded some claps

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and like we had everything.

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Just really, I just wanted to honor them cuz they've just been amazing for me.

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And they, they did it cuz they love music and they love supporting artists.

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So it was just amazing.

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And I got to make all the Pauls, like Ben and I, we hired

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Fred Etchingham, played drums.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

He's Cheryl Crows band and plays on like Casey Musk, Graves, all that kind of vibe.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And Alre Fried, who plays guitar with Cheryl Crow, He played

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on it like just a great band.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

That was so fun in the studio.

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And anyway, it was an amazing experience and I, listening back to

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it, I'm like, it's not commercial.

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It's not at all what it would've been or could have been in

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somebody else's hands, you know?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I feel like maybe it could have gone more commercial, more radio friendly, whatever.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I had no plan for that.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

That's not probably a good thing to share on this type of podcast cuz

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it's not really smart business wise.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

It was definitely a heart project I felt.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

God just opened doors for me to make.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I just wanted it to be uplifting.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

It's definitely like filtered through my faith, so there's a lot

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of that in there, but it's Americana.

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You know?

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I got the McCrery sisters to sing on there, which was amazing.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Quick other little God thing about that, we had found out that the McCrery

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sisters, so they've sung on tons of stuff.

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They're a four piece gospel sister group.

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They've sung with Carrie Underwood, a lot of the big names on records and.

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So I found out they were available and willing to sing on a couple

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songs, but it was gonna be like an extra thousand dollars or something.

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And at that point I was like, I don't have that.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

We haven't budgeted for that.

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You know?

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I came home and I was gone for two weeks.

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I came home right in the middle and my husband and I were

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walking downtown Greenville.

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I was like, I don't know how we're gonna get this money, but we

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gotta have them recruit sisters.

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They're amazing.

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Literally Dallas . I walked by a sign Mojo's coffee shop that's no longer

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there, but it was downtown Greenville.

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It said, Open mic contest winner gets a thousand dollars.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Oh, you're kidding me.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I am not kidding.

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, my husband's like, Get in there.

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And so if you know me, I , I hate open mic contests.

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They're awful.

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They're so bad and they're horrible to sit through.

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And I was just like, Ugh.

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I was like, All right, gimme a guitar.

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Let's do it.

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I won the contest and I got a thousand dollars . Oh my gosh.

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Yeah, we got sisters.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So just so cool.

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I mean, so many just little God winks throughout the whole process.

Dallas Burnett:

I think it's really refreshing from an artist's standpoint.

Dallas Burnett:

There is, and I respect this a great deal cuz I feel like I came from the same cut.

Dallas Burnett:

You get to a place where it is a music business, right?

Dallas Burnett:

So people don't understand that.

Dallas Burnett:

I think on the outside sometimes it's like this is an industry and

Dallas Burnett:

they create things to make money.

Dallas Burnett:

That's what they do.

Dallas Burnett:

And so there's a always this tension and you can hear it because

Dallas Burnett:

some artists will come out with.

Dallas Burnett:

You know, song that's like, you know, stick it to the man, you know,

Dallas Burnett:

they're like, you know, throwing under their own label under the bus

Dallas Burnett:

on the song almost, because they're just mad, can feel that tension

Dallas Burnett:

between the artist and the business.

Dallas Burnett:

And so I think that it's really refreshing that you were

Dallas Burnett:

like, Hey, I'm gonna do this.

Dallas Burnett:

It's not commercial.

Dallas Burnett:

It's not meant to be commercial.

Dallas Burnett:

It's meant to be an expression that I create for myself out

Dallas Burnett:

of myself that I feel proud of.

Dallas Burnett:

That's a representation of me.

Dallas Burnett:

I think that's, Really good.

Dallas Burnett:

And I think that it speaks a lot to progress, you know, on the last

Dallas Burnett:

10%, you know, we're creating a, you know, and you're a craftsman

Dallas Burnett:

of a trade in this situation.

Dallas Burnett:

You, you have a craftsman mindset around songwriting.

Dallas Burnett:

I think there's a lot that goes into that, that speaks to what you just did.

Dallas Burnett:

And that being an artist on the flip side is not just, the craft is not just about,

Dallas Burnett:

you know, And I was sitting there talking to, um, Greg Hill at the Hill Management,

Dallas Burnett:

and then he took me over to EMI and we sat down and, you know, it was one of those

Dallas Burnett:

situations like you're talking about.

Dallas Burnett:

And he's like, Well, the guy in EMI's like, Well get out your

Dallas Burnett:

guitar man, We'll see what you got.

Dallas Burnett:

And so you just kind of sit in the room with this publishing

Dallas Burnett:

company and you're like, Uh, okay.

Dallas Burnett:

And you play the songs.

Dallas Burnett:

And he's like, Oh.

Dallas Burnett:

This is totally different.

Dallas Burnett:

He's like very interesting, and he's like, Okay, cool.

Dallas Burnett:

Play this, play that, you know, and you're just, you're just kinda going back forth.

Dallas Burnett:

We hit it off and go back and Greg's like, Hey, he's gonna give

Dallas Burnett:

you a rec, a songwriting deal, but let me tell you how to do this.

Dallas Burnett:

And so he's kinda sent me down, but he just told me, he said,

Dallas Burnett:

Look, you've gotta decide.

Dallas Burnett:

He goes, I love David Wilcox.

Dallas Burnett:

I love that I in the hurricane song, It's in my car right now.

Dallas Burnett:

But he's never gonna be a commercial success.

Dallas Burnett:

He's just gonna tour with his album, but he gets to create the

Dallas Burnett:

albums that he wants to create.

Dallas Burnett:

He's just never gonna pack out a stadium.

Dallas Burnett:

That's just what he wants to do.

Dallas Burnett:

He has his sound, his way, he's gonna do it.

Dallas Burnett:

He said, You gotta decide if you want to go into this and make money, or if

Dallas Burnett:

you want to go in this and be an artist.

Dallas Burnett:

And that is so true.

Dallas Burnett:

I found that to be very true.

Dallas Burnett:

And for me, I just, you know, I got to a place where

Dallas Burnett:

songwriting was more of a release.

Dallas Burnett:

I like a good commercial song that wasn't my goal.

Dallas Burnett:

And so it's cool to hear that you had the same experience where you just got there

Dallas Burnett:

and said, I want to create something.

Dallas Burnett:

Reflection of me.

Dallas Burnett:

So well done.

Dallas Burnett:

Well done with that.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Well, and I will say, you know, I don't think anybody

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who's has that genuine, you know, need for creativity and artistry like, I feel

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like if God gives you those gifts and talents, you aren't doing it to get rich.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Cuz if you are, you burn out really fast.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And even to, you know, a lot of people are like, Oh, I'm just gonna write

Emily Lynch Capelli:

songs for other people and make money and not have to tour and all that.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And it's like, well it's not that easy, especially in 2022 is streaming . But

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I will say, you know, in hindsight there's a lot of, I'm just thinking

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about the listener, if there's anybody.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Wanting to go for it.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

You know, there's so many things in your life besides your job and you know, for

Emily Lynch Capelli:

me, who I am, my faith really grounds me.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And you know, I wanna be around people who are gonna lift me up and encourage

Emily Lynch Capelli:

me, and I wanna be, you know, I wanted to have a family and have some balance.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I remember a producer told me early on like, Well, Emily, if you want

Emily Lynch Capelli:

balance, you're never gonna be great.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And that was so discouraging to me because I was like, Wait, what I.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I've always felt like I was well rounded and like I pride in myself in that and

Emily Lynch Capelli:

that I want, I wanted to be balanced.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And you know, I started looking at the Patty Griffins of the world,

Emily Lynch Capelli:

these songwriters that I idolized and the artists that I loved and,

Emily Lynch Capelli:

and they didn't have balance, but it was in a way that I was like,

Emily Lynch Capelli:

you know, I don't want their life.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I wanna be married, I wanna have a family, I wanna.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

You know these guys even played in the studio, Ottley Freed.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I remember him telling me like, Man, I had just craved sleeping in my bed and

Emily Lynch Capelli:

going to the grocery store sometimes cuz I'm just so tired from the road.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So just to have that perspective.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I mean, I look back at some moments.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

In my days in Nashville and that I, for years, I felt like I had

Emily Lynch Capelli:

some regret around, like I remember doing a guitar pool with Casey

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Musgraves at Warner Chapel, and she had just released Mary Go Round.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

She had just released that and we were talking afterwards with another

Emily Lynch Capelli:

friend and they were talking about going bowling and all this, and like

Emily Lynch Capelli:

we exchanged numbers and I just.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Felt like I vibed with her very much and I, I mean she just

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really, it wasn't my people.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

She's an amazing artist and, but I was always like, gosh, I should have went

Emily Lynch Capelli:

to hang out with them, but I didn't.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Anyway, I don't know what that means, but there's other, other songwriting thing.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Even just moving to Nashville, I thought, gosh, I sold myself short

Emily Lynch Capelli:

and whatever, but you know, that wasn't what the Lord has for me.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Like I know 100% we're supposed to be in Greenville.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I'm supposed to be doing exactly what I'm doing right now.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I just think sometimes we view success as how the world views it, as, you know, a

Emily Lynch Capelli:

measurable on a chart or getting whatever cuts or, you know, fame or whatever.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And it's so not that, cuz I have so much satisfaction and fulfillment in

Emily Lynch Capelli:

what I've been able to do and what God's been able to do in my life.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So for whatever that's worth, like it's easy to get that regret and think like,

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Oh, I should've sold out, I should've done that even though I didn't want to in

Emily Lynch Capelli:

order to gain whatever there was to gain.

Dallas Burnett:

I think you're spot on with that.

Dallas Burnett:

And I think what you're speaking to is it's a level of clarity that you had

Dallas Burnett:

that kind of cut through the static.

Dallas Burnett:

And the static is social media, likes and followers.

Dallas Burnett:

It's, you know, hit records.

Dallas Burnett:

It's the CMA awards.

Dallas Burnett:

It's like all these things on these pedestals, you know, kind

Dallas Burnett:

of in front of everybody that.

Dallas Burnett:

This is the beautiful, successful people and this is what that looks like.

Dallas Burnett:

And if you want to have success and be fulfilled and be happy,

Dallas Burnett:

then this is what you need to do whatever it takes to get that.

Dallas Burnett:

Because unless you get this, you're not happy.

Dallas Burnett:

And I just think that what you have and what you experienced is just a level of

Dallas Burnett:

clarity that kind of cuts through all that static and says, No, I know what I want.

Dallas Burnett:

This is what I want.

Dallas Burnett:

This is what's gonna give me peace.

Dallas Burnett:

This is what's gonna gimme a great found.

Dallas Burnett:

And I think back to my experience as well, and I came to that same

Dallas Burnett:

point as you did in my music career.

Dallas Burnett:

It was a situation where it was like close as I can possibly

Dallas Burnett:

be without going full in.

Dallas Burnett:

Like all in making that commitment, like you said, no boundaries,

Dallas Burnett:

let's go full tilt ahead.

Dallas Burnett:

But I got to see, you know, like you did, you get to see all these people and all

Dallas Burnett:

the, you know, what's behind the curtain?

Dallas Burnett:

I think for me, and I have so much more clarity on it now looking

Dallas Burnett:

back than I did even in my twentie.

Dallas Burnett:

But I think for me, I'd have been a complete train wreck.

Dallas Burnett:

Like I think my, I think I would, even if I had been successful,

Dallas Burnett:

I think I would completely be addicted to either drugs or alcohol.

Dallas Burnett:

There's no doubt my personality is, has that bent anyway.

Dallas Burnett:

And I just would not have any kind of community or foundation

Dallas Burnett:

or grounding or accountability in my life cuz you're on the road all

Dallas Burnett:

the time, you know, around people.

Dallas Burnett:

You would have to cope in some way and I just think I would be unhealthy.

Dallas Burnett:

I really like to my core know that I'd probably be in a bad

Dallas Burnett:

way right now if I followed that.

Dallas Burnett:

And I don't know that I would be just, like you said, have peace,

Dallas Burnett:

you know, cuz it's not what I want.

Dallas Burnett:

Now, some people, that's what they want.

Dallas Burnett:

They're going after it.

Dallas Burnett:

And I, and I don't think we're, neither one of us are saying that anybody who's

Dallas Burnett:

made it and I'm pumped, I'm like, I'm pumped for everybody who's put that.

Dallas Burnett:

Cuz I know how much effort they've put into that and how much time

Dallas Burnett:

and energy it puts into it.

Dallas Burnett:

It's just for me, I think.

Dallas Burnett:

And also I think for you, you just said we needed to have some real clarity.

Dallas Burnett:

So if you're listing the last 10% and you're trying to go and you're

Dallas Burnett:

looking at, you know, you've got a big decision in your life to

Dallas Burnett:

make and it's kind of left or.

Dallas Burnett:

You've got to try to cut through the static and look at what the end

Dallas Burnett:

game that you're trying to create, what's the end goal that you're trying

Dallas Burnett:

to create, and does the reality of that line up with your decisions?

Dallas Burnett:

Does the reality of what you're trying to create, is that gonna

Dallas Burnett:

give you what you're looking for?

Dallas Burnett:

Cause I think if I would've created that career in music, I could have been quote

Dallas Burnett:

unquote successful in music, but it would not have created the reality that I

Dallas Burnett:

really like everything that goes with it.

Dallas Burnett:

You know what I mean?

Dallas Burnett:

Like everything that goes with a career in.

Dallas Burnett:

I just don't think that would've been good for me.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

One question I asked myself was like, and this might

Emily Lynch Capelli:

sound silly, but like, let's say you wanna go be a famous singer, so you're

Emily Lynch Capelli:

considering going on American Idol or The Voice or something like that.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

All right, well let's assume for me, I, I thought, let's assume you win the voice.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Do you want that ? Do you want, What comes with that?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

You know, for me it was no and I, like I said, I'm a homebody.

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I, I do like balance.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I wanted to have a family.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I wanted to, Not that you can't have those things, but it's hard.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And anyway, everything you said was spot on for sure.

Dallas Burnett:

So now you have had this kind of library of songs

Dallas Burnett:

that you wrote back when you were going back and forth to Nashville.

Dallas Burnett:

And recently you got a call that an artist has picked up one of your songs.

Dallas Burnett:

So tell us about that story.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

In that span of writing as I was kind

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of also compiling songs that I thought I could record myself.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I got a chance to write with an artist named Janelle Arthur, and she was, gosh,

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I don't know what year, but she was like top five American Idol one of the years.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

She's definitely a country artist, like amazing traditional country voice,

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and she was singing at the Opry a lot.

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Just had a lot of attention in Nashville.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I got to write with her and I took her an idea that I felt like would

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be down her alley, and she and I have very similar tendencies vocally.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And you know, I just thought, I didn't know her, but I was like, Let's

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just see how she likes this idea.

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And I had written a chorus for this song called Hand Me Downs.

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We wrote the verses and we finished it together.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

She loved.

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And that was, gosh, that was 2014, 15, something like that.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

She was kind of dealing with some label stuff and not sure she really

Emily Lynch Capelli:

wanted to have the song and she, anyway, she never put it out.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So I ended up recording it on my Light Shine in album and she sang background

Emily Lynch Capelli:

vocals on it and it was so fun.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

It was great.

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And she had talked about like through American Idol and all of her ends, she

Emily Lynch Capelli:

had a relationship with Dolly part.

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And she had said, Man, it would be awesome to have Dolly sing this with me.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And I was like, That would be awesome, . But you know, in Nashville there's,

Emily Lynch Capelli:

there's so much talk always, you know, there's so and so's gonna do this, and

Emily Lynch Capelli:

until it's done, just don't believe it.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So I was just like, Oh, that's cool.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Years and years went by, I started having kids and we keep in touch via

Emily Lynch Capelli:

social media, but I hadn't written with any of my Nashville friends in a while.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And yeah, last year, At my parents' house and I saw Janelle was putting

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out these obscure, her manager had sent me some paperwork about hand

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downs that they were recording it.

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I sent it to my husband to print out for me and so I could sign it.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And anyways, so we have this whole deal.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I send that back.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So put that in the back of your mind.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So then this is like two weeks later, I'm seeing Janelle posting these like obscure

Emily Lynch Capelli:

things on about an announcement coming up.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I told my mom, I'm like, Gosh, I feel like handing downs

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might be a single or something.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I don't know what.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

That's cool.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Anyway, the day of the announcement comes out and Dolly Parton

Emily Lynch Capelli:

pops up on a video and she's.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I am so happy to be singing this amazing song, Hand Me Downs with

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my friend Janelle, and y'all get it, It's gonna be out, whatever.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And I was like, What?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Dolly Parton, literally just, she sang some lyrics that I wrote.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

What?

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And the funny thing, Dallas, I called my husband and I was like,

Emily Lynch Capelli:

You're never gonna believe this Dolly Parton is singing on my song.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And he was like, Yeah, I saw it on the paperwork two weeks

Emily Lynch Capelli:

ago when you sent this to me.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Like, did you not see that?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And I was like, No, I didn't see it.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And I was like, How did we not talk about this?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

You know, you're too busy if you like somehow missed that conversation.

Dallas Burnett:

That's.

Dallas Burnett:

You missed Dolly Parton on your paperwork.

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah, that's such an awesome thing.

Dallas Burnett:

Last week I interviewed for the first time, I interviewed

Dallas Burnett:

my wife on the last 10%.

Dallas Burnett:

And at the end I ask every guest, you know, who's somebody that you

Dallas Burnett:

would like to have on the show?

Dallas Burnett:

And she said, Dolly Parton.

Dallas Burnett:

So I said, Hey look, make no promises.

Dallas Burnett:

We'll go for it, but I think you're gonna like the next guest

Dallas Burnett:

So at least if we can't have Dolly Parton, we can have someone who

Dallas Burnett:

wrote one of Dolly Parton's latest singles that she's co singing on.

Dallas Burnett:

So that's, um, that's.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Yeah.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Yeah.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Everybody should go check out.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

They did a great job with the song, it's called Hand Me Downs and, um,

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Janelle Arthur featuring Dolly Parton.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So, and Dolly's saying her butt off.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

She's just amazing.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I feel so proud of it and it's such a full circle moment.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

As I mentioned before, my dad saying, Oh, you know, when I was in high school, he

Emily Lynch Capelli:

said, If you wanna be like Dolly Parton, you gotta write more than one song.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

You know, So it's just another little god wink of like, you're doing it, you know,

Dallas Burnett:

So now I'd like to go ahead and transition a little bit.

Dallas Burnett:

This is kind of as we round out this episode now, we always ask the guest on

Dallas Burnett:

the show if there's anybody they would like for us to go and get on the show.

Dallas Burnett:

So who is the person that you would like to hear on the last 10%?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Well, I'd love to hear tons of great people,

Emily Lynch Capelli:

but my immediate thought was Dabo, your Dabo Swinney, your

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Clemson, through and through.

Dallas Burnett:

We have that in common.

Dallas Burnett:

So tell us a cool story cuz you have a really unique story about Dabo.

Dallas Burnett:

So tell us your story about Dabo.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Gosh, well he's such an amazing person and

Emily Lynch Capelli:

getting to experience that firsthand.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

We, my husband and I, were trying to get pregnant.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

We were trying to have a baby, took a little while and we'd had one miscarriage

Emily Lynch Capelli:

and had done some fertility treatment and we're really excited that we

Emily Lynch Capelli:

had, you know, another positive test.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And this was right.

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The Dashaun Watson.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

What year was that?

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The first national championship that we won with Davo.

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We found out we were pregnant and had gotten like, you know, seen a couple

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heartbeats and everything was great.

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We went down to, Where was that?

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No, Tampa.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

It was in Tampa.

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So my whole family went down to see the game and we were just, if you're

Emily Lynch Capelli:

a Clemson fan, you know, that was just amazing and we were just flying, you

Emily Lynch Capelli:

know, orange and purple, everything Clems.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So we were ecstatic.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So we drove home on Tuesday and then we had another appointment on

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Thursday, and we found out there was no heartbeat on Thursday.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So that was devastating.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Friday I had to go in for a dnc.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

It was just really, I mean, it was obviously just a huge bummer, but

Emily Lynch Capelli:

it just felt it was really heavy.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And in the hospital, I didn't know this at the time, but my husband had

Emily Lynch Capelli:

written an email to Dabo secretary just asking, If Dabo had extra time

Emily Lynch Capelli:

to sign something or send me a little note, you know, of encouragement in

Emily Lynch Capelli:

the mail or something, just cuz we were so thrilled for Clemson, so proud.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And then we had had this devastating moment and he thought

Emily Lynch Capelli:

maybe that would lift my spirits.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I guess he left my phone number and she wrote him back and said

Emily Lynch Capelli:

like, Oh man, we're so sorry.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I'll definitely get this to Dabo.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And that was all he knew.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So he didn't tell me any of this at the time.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I had the dnc, so we were just relaxing at home.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

The parade in Clemson was that Saturday the next day.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So we were at home watching it on tv, like we were planning to be there, but

Emily Lynch Capelli:

we were recovering, so just relaxing.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And that night, about eight o'clock my phone rang and it said, private

Emily Lynch Capelli:

or unknown, something like that.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And my husband's like, You should answer that.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Anyway, I answered it.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And he says, Hey Emily, this is d.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And I was like, Somebody's pranking me.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

What's happening?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

You know?

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I mean, I, I didn't believe him.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And I was like, What?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And he said, No, no.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Your husband wrote the sweetest email and I just had to call you because I

Emily Lynch Capelli:

just wanted you to know that, to hang in there and keep pressing on and God's

Emily Lynch Capelli:

got you and you know, don't give up.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And just was quote in scripture.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And he just shared with me that he and Kathleen had two miscarriage.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

He shared some of the details of those situations with me and before they had

Emily Lynch Capelli:

their first and you know, to just hang in there and that he shared a few other

Emily Lynch Capelli:

coaches had gone through some infertility and I mean, he was just talking to me

Emily Lynch Capelli:

like a mentor and a friend and he was coaching me up really just like, you

Emily Lynch Capelli:

know, You're gonna get through this and, and don't give up and God's got

Emily Lynch Capelli:

your back and just really, really sweet.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And my husband and I were both just sobbing on the couch cuz

Emily Lynch Capelli:

it was, it was so emotional.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I was just so, I felt so seen by God and just very blessed.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And you know, Dabo is, is a wonderful person, but he's just a human.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So I was just really thankful that.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

He followed the nudge from the Lord to pick up the phone and call us,

Emily Lynch Capelli:

cuz it really meant the world to us.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And, and we did have more hope after that.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Truly it felt like a big hug from heaven and a a lift.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So I wrote him a thank you note and I included a few CDs in it and I

Emily Lynch Capelli:

just told him, I was like, you know, I don't know if he like country

Emily Lynch Capelli:

music, but this is some of my stuff.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And I mean, I just wanted to send some kind of gift.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I saw him at one of the ladies clinics the next.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And I was like, Dabo, it's Emily.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Thank you again so much.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And he like stopped everything, grabbed my shoulders and gave me the biggest hug.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And he's like, Emily, I love your cd.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

It's in my truck.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I've been telling everybody about you.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And then he started telling all the ladies around me that I was

Emily Lynch Capelli:

a famous artist and all this.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

It was hilarious.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So we send him Christmas cards every year.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I got to see him again when I was pregnant with my second son.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And so anyway, just really amazing people.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Yeah, those, that was a special experie.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

We'll have to work extra hard to see if we can get Dabo on the last 10%.

Dallas Burnett:

We got a few connections there, so we might be able to swing it

Dallas Burnett:

maybe, maybe not in the next few months, cuz he is a little busy right now.

Dallas Burnett:

But we'll see.

Dallas Burnett:

We'll see what we can do.

Dallas Burnett:

Just rounding it out.

Dallas Burnett:

Is there anything that you would like to speak to the listeners if they're thinking

Dallas Burnett:

about going to songwriting, what's one last piece of advice that you would tell

Dallas Burnett:

them maybe that you were given from Dan?

Dallas Burnett:

What was the.

Dallas Burnett:

Instructive thing because what you've talked about a lot today,

Dallas Burnett:

and I really have really liked how you've narrated the story.

Dallas Burnett:

It's a story that just shows how you just were willing to put in the work.

Dallas Burnett:

It was consistent effort over time, and it was just small games.

Dallas Burnett:

You staying in the game and just moving forward, networking,

Dallas Burnett:

getting better at your craft.

Dallas Burnett:

What would you say is big piece of advice to give anybody that either

Dallas Burnett:

is starting into, you know, wanting us to go into the career in music

Dallas Burnett:

or songwriting or just in general?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

As it relates to working and fine tuning a craft, a lot

Emily Lynch Capelli:

of practical things that come to mind.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I mean, with songwriting in particular, treating it as a

Emily Lynch Capelli:

craft for sure is important.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Listening to good music, maybe finding a mentor that could

Emily Lynch Capelli:

give you some real critique.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

You know, don't be afraid to get, for somebody to say, Hey, this is kind of

Emily Lynch Capelli:

cheesy, this is, you know, whatever.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Some kind of good advice, because that's what makes you better.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And encouragement, you know, sandwiched with encouragement and.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I have a, This is more practical things, but as you're thinking through song

Emily Lynch Capelli:

ideas, Shane McInally is one of the most amazing successful writers in Nashville.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Brandy Clark.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I had the opportunity to write with them, and he told me, or no, I think

Emily Lynch Capelli:

it was Lean Fallon told me when we were talking about getting with him, she's

Emily Lynch Capelli:

like these writers, they'll do anything for a good idea, bring a good idea.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

They can craft a song, but they need ideas.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

You know, if you have a concept, like write those down in your

Emily Lynch Capelli:

phone, try to work around 'em.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

If you get an opportunity to co-write, you know, explore that.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

That's a whole different type of craft that you gotta learn.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

But, um, you know, if you don't have a good idea, then it doesn't

Emily Lynch Capelli:

matter how good you can craft a song.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

But those are some practical things.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And then the business networking side of it, I mean, I think people,

Emily Lynch Capelli:

like in general, in everything, like, like being around genuine,

Emily Lynch Capelli:

authentic people, so, Be who you are.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

There's only, There's only one you, and that's why we need you to be you.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I know that sounds cheesy, but also one thing I was very intentional about with

Emily Lynch Capelli:

all my meetings was asking people about their families and asking people about

Emily Lynch Capelli:

things that I knew that they would wanna talk about, Not in an insincere way.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

But in a true like effort to connect and build relationship that's so important and

Emily Lynch Capelli:

not just try to go in and get something out of them because they can see through

Emily Lynch Capelli:

that and then that just makes you another le that they're dealing with, you know?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

So that was really important.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Yeah.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And just, and, and trying to stand out, you know, sometimes

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I didn't always do that, right.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

But make sure with emails or phone calls or conversations that you're

Emily Lynch Capelli:

saying things and you're not shock factors necessarily, but you know.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Memorable.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

There's a lot of people that come through these people's offices

Emily Lynch Capelli:

all the time, and you want them to remember you with a positive light

Emily Lynch Capelli:

if, if possible, so, but yeah.

Dallas Burnett:

Oh, I think that's great advice.

Dallas Burnett:

Oh my goodness.

Dallas Burnett:

I mean, we could do a whole show on just, they'll do anything for a great idea.

Dallas Burnett:

I mean, that concept alone is just, The importance of that, capturing those great

Dallas Burnett:

ideas, whether it's laying in the bed at night or in the morning in your shower,

Dallas Burnett:

whatever it is walking down, or if it's something you've crafted over time.

Dallas Burnett:

Those ideas are so important, cuz if you don't have that, then it's

Dallas Burnett:

like you said, What do you have?

Dallas Burnett:

So Emily, how do people connect with you and your music now?

Dallas Burnett:

What's one way they can connect with you and your music?

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Well, I do have Instagram, but it's

Emily Lynch Capelli:

pretty much about my kids.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

You're welcome to come and hang out with me and my kids on

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Instagram at Emily Lynch, Capelli,

Emily Lynch Capelli:

But, um, my music is on Apple Music, Spotify, all that.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I've got three projects up.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

There's the, a little more ep, which is old, Old, but it's still

Emily Lynch Capelli:

sweet little songs that I love.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And then the self-titled album, Emily Lynch.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

And then the, uh, most recent project, which is from 2015 Light Shin in.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Those are all up wherever you get music and yeah.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

I so appreciate you having me.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

This has been really fun.

Dallas Burnett:

I know it's been great.

Dallas Burnett:

Thanks for being on the show today, Emily, and, , we look forward to hearing

Dallas Burnett:

maybe even some more songs sometime maybe we get back in the rhythm of

Dallas Burnett:

writing on songs too, but you guys check her out on Apple and Spotify.

Dallas Burnett:

Emily Lynch Capelli.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Thank you again for being on the show today, Emily.

Emily Lynch Capelli:

Thanks Dallas.

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