Episode 26

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Published on:

16th May 2023

Kiel Bradley | Navigating Leadership - The Power of the 1on1's Coaching System

In this episode, we sit down with Kiel Bradley, currently making waves as the Regional Director for a rapidly expanding technical service company in the Southeast. Bradley shares an insightful journey of his career progression, highlighting his transformation from seeing himself as a 'player' to evolving into a 'coach' — a shift that has undeniably catalyzed his professional growth.

Bradley was instrumental in the early days of the 1on1's coaching system, a transformative initiative that has been a game-changer in team development. He shares fascinating anecdotes and success stories tied to this system, showcasing the profound impact it had on his team. Bradley's experiences serve as a testament to the efficacy of this unique coaching methodology, providing listeners with valuable takeaways about leadership, team building, and the importance of continuous learning. Tune in to gain a fresh perspective on leadership, and see how Bradley is shaping the future of technical services in the Southeast.

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Transcript
Dallas Burnett:

Hey everybody.

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We're talking to Kyle Bradley today, a good friend of mine and also was one

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of the people that was a part of the genesis of the 1on1's coaching system.

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Before we get started, I just wanna give a big thank you to lots of people.

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Number one, if you've been listening to the last 10%, we just finished our last

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the last 10%.

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I am Dallas Burnett in Thrive Studios.

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Sitting beside my 1905 Cook Brothers Barber chair, because today is a special

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day, the first episode of our second year, I actually have a guest in studio.

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His name is the great Kyle Bradley.

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Very excited to have you to the show.

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Thanks for being here, Kyle.

Kiel Bradley:

An honor to be here and I will say, I had to wait till you're

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one year old before I can come here.

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I need to make sure you were legit.

Kiel Bradley:

I am staring at the 1905 Koch brothers

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chair.

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exist.

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I'm not an expert, but it looks like it could be

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a hundred plus years old, but

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I'm sitting in

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like probably a 21 model,

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yes.

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You're sitting in much nicer.

Kiel Bradley:

very comfortable.

Dallas Burnett:

Yes.

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good.

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I'm very glad to have you in the studio.

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Glad we grew up a little bit and, was able to take it to the next level.

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So thanks for being here.

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I have been looking forward to doing this show for a while because it's

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been something we've talked about.

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We, we go way back.

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We've got history and we've worked together in the past and

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just had a lot of fun together.

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But one of the things I've really been excited about is unpacking the

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story because at Think Mo, thrive.

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And even the last 10%, we talk about these 1on1's and the 1on1's

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coaching system, 1on1's app.

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And a lot of people don't know what that is.

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And a lot of people, maybe they hear it on the show, but they don't

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really, they don't know how they use it or how people do use it.

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And you have a cool story related to that because you're at the genesis of

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the whole thing of the 1on1's coaching system and it's really a neat story.

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So today's episode is really special to me because we get to go and kind

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of unpack some of these things we hadn't talked about in a long time.

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And so let's talk about, first off, let's talk about you.

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let's turn this back around.

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Let's talk about you, tell us, tell the listeners like your story,

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like where have you been and and how did you get to where you are?

Kiel Bradley:

Wow.

Kiel Bradley:

So the year was 1982.

Kiel Bradley:

That's when it all began.

Kiel Bradley:

no.

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just really going back, because I believe where you came from kind of shapes

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who you are and the way you think.

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Going back, nor I'm the most average Joe Guy that'll be on this podcast.

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So I've never climbed a mountain, I've never done

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anything, nothing special on me.

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But we are able to do special things by our relationships that we have.

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for me, very normal life growing up.

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so I'll talk about sports because I think what we're gonna talk about

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today has a lot to do with sports.

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So, played baseball from very early on was pretty good at baseball.

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I wasn't the guy picking.

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Kicking sand or picking four leaf clovers.

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I was actually out there engaged.

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did that from early on t-ball up through until we got to high school.

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And then around 12 years old started playing basketball.

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So now I love playing basketball.

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The only problem is I'm terrible at playing basketball.

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which is funny.

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cuz I have kids that play basketball now.

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Yes.

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And I'm able to be involved with that.

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So

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Very good basketball

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playing kids.

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Very

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he, he, is, he works hard at

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it, so I'm very proud of that.

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but I would say, I had a familiarity on being on a team, being a part of a team.

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rushed through that, kind of quit playing sports in high school.

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just didn't have an interest in it at the high school level, but began, racing cars.

Dallas Burnett:

Oh, wow.

Kiel Bradley:

So bigger teams to a smaller team.

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But working on cars with my dad, helping a family friend

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with his and really fun times.

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Like I wouldn't trade that for anything.

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And it was really fun up until the point my dad was like, all right, you

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got a job, now you can pay for it.

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And it was not fun anymore.

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So that was the end of that

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career.

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then, kind of, kind of got a real job, I guess I would say, and

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became another part of another team.

Dallas Burnett:

Now you, you've got an interesting thing because about your

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job, because ultimately when kind of jumped into what you call the real world,

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what's interesting is there's so many people now that you know, they say, back

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when I was in my twenties, they were saying that the average person would

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change careers like seven times and.

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You have an interesting story because you've been very

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consistent in your career.

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You've developed kind of from the start, so what's, how's that been?

Kiel Bradley:

Yeah, I'm working on year 23,

Dallas Burnett:

Hmm.

Kiel Bradley:

which is shocking.

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It doesn't seem like it's been that long.

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But a kind of industry that's apprentice style learning from the bottom.

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I knew nothing of it coming in.

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I only had a friend that worked here.

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That was my connection to it.

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just, there was a path out before us of learning, being technically sound,

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being good enough in that field.

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then you begin to develop relationships with clients and you begin to.

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they recognize you and they ask if you do their work, which adds value.

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you do that for a time.

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you gain certifications and you become recognized as a technical expert.

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And then you get to be so good at that and they're like, Hey, you

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should do this many times over.

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Managed multiple things at one time.

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became a project manager at that point, managing multiple projects,

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had the opportunity to become an operations manager, kind of running

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your own small business and then now able to, work with operations

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managers as a regional director.

Kiel Bradley:

So 20, 22 plus years and, it's been a fun ride though.

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's awesome.

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I just think it's cool because you've developed so much.

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And it's not like you've stagnated, you've kind of found the path along

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the way and had opportunities open up and you've just capitalized on the

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opportunities through your career.

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And I don't know about average Joe, cuz you're an engineer.

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You have been an operations manager run a whole branch, now you're running

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multiple, you're regional director over multiple multiples all over the southeast.

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I don't know anything average about that, but.

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But, but I would like to, so I would like to pause.

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So when we get together and when we first met, I was coming into

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the organization and we were making some, cool changes and doing some fun

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projects and different things related to it and all these other things.

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But one of the things me and you did was we just had a lot of Monday

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morning conversations and, they were not necessarily directed, they

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were more kind of free flowing, but they, we always came away.

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I don't know.

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I felt like we always came away with something like we just kind of, we,

Kiel Bradley:

We started with no intentions for sure.

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the intention was to have a 10 minute

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conversation and sometimes we sat there for three to four hours.

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At that little round table.

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but they would lead to great

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things.

Kiel Bradley:

Yeah.

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yeah.

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And so I remember.

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I remember it was cool because when you talk about playing sports, and I know

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that it's an important part of your story, but it was cool because when we

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were first starting all this, with the 1on1's coaching system and I was kind

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of mulling it over cuz I felt like you were developing and there was a couple

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other people developing in the company and we were, I was really burdened with

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how to push out this development through the company cuz you know, I can't,

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no one, we couldn't afford to hire a.

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an executive coach for every single employee in the whole company.

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Just couldn't, can't do that.

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But I wanted to push the idea of coaching down because we were seeing such, just

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a lot of different, good things happen.

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And so I remember you coming in and we had this conversation one day.

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I remember you were standing in the door and I said something about,

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moving you into this leadership, type position and role and stuff.

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And you were like, look, I'm a performer.

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I just remember you saying that I'm a performer.

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I'm not a coach.

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And that was interesting.

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That was like a, it's like in a movie where you have

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like dramatic foreshadowing.

Kiel Bradley:

I am an idiot.

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But what was cool though was right after that, you got

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involved with like a basketball, right?

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so I think that, you are who you are at home and at

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work, but in at that time, work and home were paralleling each other.

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So I can't believe it, but I'm gonna have a high school senior next year,

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which is shocking But you know, when he was, four or five years old, whenever

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you can first start playing basketball, because everyone had seen me playing

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basketball at the church and that, oh, clearly you were gonna be the

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coach cuz your son's gonna be playing.

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That just makes a lot of sense.

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And then I've told someone, no way, I'm a player.

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I am not a coach.

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Because at the time I'm still in my, you know, mid to late

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twenties and like I was still a

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player.

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Absolutely.

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And by the way, a very good one by the way.

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you were crushing it and at that point in time when I knew you were project

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manager first, you were project manager crushing it, one of the most successful

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project managers in the company.

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So you were rocking it out for sure.

Kiel Bradley:

yeah.

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So I saw myself as a player of meaning in sports, and I saw

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myself as a player at work.

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so the idea of like, Hey man, I kind, I want you to be a coach.

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I was like, all right, I'm being asked at home life to be a coach.

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And now I got somebody at work saying, Hey, how about being a coach?

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And it was hard for me at the time, which is ridiculous.

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Now looking back on it, right?

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Of course

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I was a coach.

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but yeah, it's, you have to mentally shift the way you look at things from

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if you're a player or you're a coach,

Dallas Burnett:

Hmm.

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I think that's interesting too because when we had early conversations, like

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you had this practice, like these, like little kids, it was like they were little.

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I mean, it was like eight years or 10 years old.

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and they had asked you to be the coach and you had said, okay, I'm going to coach.

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And so you took on this team and I just remember, you, you went into the practices

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and at first it was just kind of figuring out things, but then you came back and

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it was after the first, I don't know if it was after the first second practice

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or maybe after the first game, but you came back in, you said, You're not gonna

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believe this, you said I, I am seeing the same problems with these 10 year olds

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and communicating with them as I am with some of the people that I'm working with.

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It's the same thing.

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It's just like this with kids, and this is with adults, but the same

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issues, the same communication things.

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Are there.

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Thought that was cool.

Kiel Bradley:

and I've learned since all that is like, it doesn't matter

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what industry you're working in.

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The way you talk to people and treat people and motivate people.

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It's the same.

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It doesn't matter what you do, I think I told you really at the first, after the

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first practice, I think we rounded up and I was like, we're not gonna win a game.

Dallas Burnett:

That's right.

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You did say

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that.

Kiel Bradley:

just looking to get through the first

Dallas Burnett:

You sure did.

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You said, this team's so bad.

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There's no way we're winning a game.

Kiel Bradley:

we are gonna, man, it's gonna be a tough

Dallas Burnett:

It is a tough year.

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Yeah.

Kiel Bradley:

And then I think we won a game.

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You did.

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You did.

Kiel Bradley:

got some more structure to practices.

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So like what we leaned into is there is like, and it's hard, like when

Kiel Bradley:

you don't have any belief, it's tough to, you think you're not gonna win.

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah.

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You weren't the only one on the team that came away from that first practice

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going, we are not gonna win a game.

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It's what you're saying.

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There's probably a lot of the players

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why would they believe it's a first year?

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head coach.

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like, why would anybody

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year head coach.

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Nobody knows what they're doing.

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Yeah, sure.

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but when you win, oh, now we, now our belief goes up

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a little bit and we believe more and believe more, and I think we

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actually won a playoff game that year.

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Matter of fact, I remember sending you a picture of the score of that game of a

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team that beat us like three weeks prior.

Kiel Bradley:

That's

Dallas Burnett:

That's exactly right.

Kiel Bradley:

could almost tell you the

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score of that

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game.

Dallas Burnett:

right.

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That's awesome.

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That's so cool.

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I think that's a good point too, because so often in when we're taking on a

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leadership role, especially if it's new, and if you're getting promoted

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over a team, And especially if you're coming into a team that's had a toxic

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situation, I think it's very easy to want that team to immediately.

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Become this new thing because you're over this new.

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Even if you have a good attitude and you're a good leader, coach,

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you have this desire for them, everything's gonna immediately change.

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Cuz I'm gonna lead this differently.

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And what you just described is great because you're saying, look, it

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took us, we had to get a small win.

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Before we could get a big win.

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And then we put that small win up and we, that increased our belief.

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It increased our belief in ourself, our abilities, what we could achieve.

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And then that, that change in belief helped us get another win.

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And then that helped.

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And so it really is, it's a cycle.

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It's a building, it's a process, you know?

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And I think that's, I think that's so true.

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If you're taking on a leadership role in a company, you have to start where they are.

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And it's not like they just flip a switch, It's a process of

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belief building, so that's good.

Kiel Bradley:

with that.

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hey.

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And just saying, no, this was years later, but a few years ago, the team goes

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undefeated and we win the big trophy.

Kiel Bradley:

So

Dallas Burnett:

that's a movie man.

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Like, it's like, that's totally a movie.

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Like, cuz like it's the same team.

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You coached these guys from the time they were little and it's

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the same and they're growing up

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moving up divisions.

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We keep moving up together.

Kiel Bradley:

Yeah, we've been together for several years.

Dallas Burnett:

That's so amazing.

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and then ultimately that flows into your sons actually playing for the

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high school and doing all that.

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So that's really.

Kiel Bradley:

Mm-hmm.

Dallas Burnett:

really cool that kind of transitioned into his

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plan for more, organized ball.

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all right, so now we've transitioned, you came into this company,

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you've been asked to be a coach.

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you've been coaching this team at, rec league basketball.

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How did that parallel at work?

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Like, what did you start seeing that in that environment?

Kiel Bradley:

So I had a misconception on, communication there.

Kiel Bradley:

there's a missing component there.

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I think most people would say We're gonna communicate if I.

Kiel Bradley:

I speak and you listen, we've communicated.

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But there's a th component, which is understanding.

Kiel Bradley:

Okay.

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So that's usually the missing component.

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So, you know, being able to try things on these young kids and playing

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basketball, trying to teach them basketball, at the end of the day,

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they get to go home to their parents.

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So I couldn't do too much wrong to 'em.

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But some of the things we were doing that we would try to bring to work

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and because ultimately we're trying to say, Hey, here's a goal out here.

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And Every teammate has a role in there, but we collectively, we gotta

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play together to get to the goal.

Kiel Bradley:

So just trying to take so much stuff from, church basketball to work every day.

Dallas Burnett:

So we, so when we were talking, we had the conversation.

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You're like, I'm a performer.

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Then you go and start coaching, you come back, you have this kind of

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epiphany and you're like, I am a coach.

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I'm actually coaching.

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and it, I feel like that developed over the course of like, even

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deeper, over the course of like two or three years as you're coaching

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this team, and then I think you started applying those principles.

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To your team at work as well.

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And one of the things I love how you talk about communication, is because

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that it's not like it was a one and done thing, or like you're just delivering

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information and walking away it became more nuanced and the messages that

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you were sharing were more nuanced.

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How you were sharing, you took more interest in what you were sharing

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with people that they understood the values of the company, understood what

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you're trying to achieve on the jobs.

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All those things I think, really developed.

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about that time though, I'm having these thoughts about this coaching

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system idea and I'm like, I think we can build this coaching system that

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can be integrated into the company to really be a tool for everybody.

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And then, And you're going through this coaching process, and then we have one

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of these Monday morning conversations.

Kiel Bradley:

more, I'll never forget this one.

Dallas Burnett:

All right, tell us what

Kiel Bradley:

Well, I, you can tell the details cuz you, you were

Kiel Bradley:

thinking of this and mulling this over, outside of my knowledge.

Kiel Bradley:

But on a Monday morning conversation you had mentioned, like, maybe that morning

Kiel Bradley:

or over the weekend something, you took one of your daughters for breakfast.

Kiel Bradley:

And I said, oh, you a little 1on1's.

Kiel Bradley:

Huh?

Kiel Bradley:

And you were like, very interesting.

Kiel Bradley:

You would say that.

Kiel Bradley:

and then you pulled the curtain back on, on one of ones to me.

Kiel Bradley:

And that was, I don't know how long ago that was.

Dallas Burnett:

that was a long time ago.

Dallas Burnett:

That was several years ago.

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yeah, several years ago.

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So I take my daughter's, 1on1's on, morning dates, occasionally just to

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spend some time with each one of 'em.

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I have three.

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it was after one of those, times and you said that, and I had been

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working out the details kind of secretly planning this, this idea,

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but I hadn't shared it with anybody.

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And we just took some time that morning.

Dallas Burnett:

I just whiteboarded and we just had a really good whiteboarding session

Dallas Burnett:

after that and we laid it out.

Dallas Burnett:

And I was kind of telling you what I was thinking, and this

Dallas Burnett:

was, it hadn't been written down.

Dallas Burnett:

It was just like very fluid at that point, but got it out on the board.

Dallas Burnett:

I was like, what do you think?

Dallas Burnett:

You were very like, all right, yeah, let's try it.

Kiel Bradley:

part of that is this isn't week two of me and you knowing each other.

Kiel Bradley:

Yeah.

Kiel Bradley:

This is years into it.

Kiel Bradley:

and I'm more of a person now that will be open to change and doing something

Kiel Bradley:

differently.

Kiel Bradley:

I trust you enough to be like, Hey, you think it's a good deal.

Kiel Bradley:

Let's try it.

Dallas Burnett:

Let's try

Kiel Bradley:

of what I was

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah, no, that was really great.

Dallas Burnett:

And your, I think your confidence kind of, kind of increased my, willingness

Dallas Burnett:

to go out on a limb because it would, it was a different concept for the company.

Dallas Burnett:

It was just a very different way than they had been operating in the past.

Dallas Burnett:

And so I was unsure if it would be adopted or accepted or if it would be completely

Dallas Burnett:

rejected and like, this is not gonna work.

Dallas Burnett:

So we ended up moving forward, we created this coaching system on paper.

Dallas Burnett:

And I wanted to demo it.

Dallas Burnett:

I don't know, it was really a lot longer than it is now.

Dallas Burnett:

It's the more streamline now, but it was like several pages of like different

Dallas Burnett:

questions and different things and they would have this other conversation.

Dallas Burnett:

It was just all this stuff.

Dallas Burnett:

Anyway, we,

Kiel Bradley:

I'll

Kiel Bradley:

interrupt you though before we even get to paper.

Kiel Bradley:

Me and you sit in a conference room with a guy

Kiel Bradley:

with just the idea of

Kiel Bradley:

this thing, So you laid it out to him?

Kiel Bradley:

I was in the room.

Kiel Bradley:

he, we would work together for quite a while too, so I was

Kiel Bradley:

the trust component in that.

Kiel Bradley:

Yes.

Kiel Bradley:

That circle.

Kiel Bradley:

but,

Dallas Burnett:

I remember I was walking to the, like the little

Dallas Burnett:

break room area to get a drink or something, I don't know what it was.

Dallas Burnett:

And you're like, Hey, come in here.

Dallas Burnett:

I'm meeting with these two guys.

Dallas Burnett:

These project managers come in here and show 'em what a 1on1's is.

Dallas Burnett:

Show 'em.

Dallas Burnett:

Show 'em.

Dallas Burnett:

This is what's coming.

Dallas Burnett:

Cuz we knew it was coming out.

Dallas Burnett:

You and I had talked about it.

Dallas Burnett:

We kind of got the schedule when we're gonna roll this thing out.

Dallas Burnett:

We were gonna demo it, but this was like pre-demo and so you

Dallas Burnett:

were like, come in and, show 'em.

Dallas Burnett:

So I came in and I just sat down and just gave just, questions of the 1on1's that

Dallas Burnett:

we knew were gonna be in the first couple.

Kiel Bradley:

So this one gentleman, he, I think he had remarked it like,

Kiel Bradley:

Hey, I'd actually kind of listen to a podcast on something about this.

Kiel Bradley:

And, based on me listening to that and what you're telling me, he's like, . We

Kiel Bradley:

didn't ask him to commit anything.

Dallas Burnett:

No, that's right.

Kiel Bradley:

said, this is the idea of what we wanna do.

Kiel Bradley:

What do you think about this?

Kiel Bradley:

And he's like, I've been listening to this going on.

Kiel Bradley:

Y'all talking to me about this right now?

Kiel Bradley:

Man, you know what, man?

Kiel Bradley:

I've been smoking and like it's taking, it takes so much money for me

Kiel Bradley:

to smoke and it's backed my health.

Kiel Bradley:

And I got these young girls, Hey man, I'm quitting smoking like now.

Kiel Bradley:

I

Dallas Burnett:

I remember because that was like we did, I'll never

Dallas Burnett:

forget this cause it was so funny.

Dallas Burnett:

Your reaction to this was incredible.

Dallas Burnett:

It was like we had that on Thursday afternoon.

Dallas Burnett:

We sat down, I do the 1on1's and I just remember, I remember talking to us, there

Dallas Burnett:

was two guys in the room and you and in a conference room and you had been

Dallas Burnett:

meeting with 'em about something else.

Dallas Burnett:

This project managers, you'd been meeting with 'em.

Dallas Burnett:

At this point in time, you're an ops manager and so you're meeting with these

Dallas Burnett:

two guys and I do the 1on1's and then.

Dallas Burnett:

I get, I don't even feel like I get any, like they're just stone cold.

Dallas Burnett:

Like just I look at 'em, Hey, what do you guys think?

Dallas Burnett:

Totally the different reaction than when I share it with you.

Dallas Burnett:

They're just like, yeah, okay.

Dallas Burnett:

And I, so I was like, oh, okay, this is what we're gonna do.

Dallas Burnett:

And then I'm out and I go get my drink and go back to the office and I'm thinking,

Dallas Burnett:

man, I don't know if this is gonna work.

Dallas Burnett:

I just don't know because this is hard.

Dallas Burnett:

This is gonna be so hard.

Dallas Burnett:

And then I just remember on the that mon, the following Monday morning, you

Dallas Burnett:

come in the door and you're like, You are not gonna believe what just happened.

Dallas Burnett:

And I was like, what?

Dallas Burnett:

You're like, I just talked to this guy that was in that room and he said,

Dallas Burnett:

he left the me and started thinking about the questions on the way home

Dallas Burnett:

and thought about this all weekend.

Dallas Burnett:

he was smoking and then he was thinking about his daughter and how much money

Dallas Burnett:

he was spent on this Daddy wanna take his family on vacation, all his stuff.

Dallas Burnett:

And it was just like quit smoking and it was just like un.

Dallas Burnett:

And you were like, man, this is so crazy.

Dallas Burnett:

I just remember you said, we're getting in people's heads and turning riches.

Dallas Burnett:

Man, I just laughed and we just thought that was the best.

Dallas Burnett:

Super high.

Dallas Burnett:

Super high.

Kiel Bradley:

that's, that was the like informal, like

Kiel Bradley:

that wasn't even, follow the

Kiel Bradley:

script, sit down, this guy's quitting smoking, which, that's amazing.

Kiel Bradley:

Cuz

Kiel Bradley:

I think that's, I don't have a problem with it, but I'm sure that's a bad habit.

Kiel Bradley:

Right.

Kiel Bradley:

So,

Dallas Burnett:

And he's still, he's still clean.

Kiel Bradley:

oh, to my knowledge,

Dallas Burnett:

to my knowledge, he's still, and that was,

Dallas Burnett:

that was years ago that he.

Dallas Burnett:

Many years ago, he's been, and he went cold Turkey that weekend.

Dallas Burnett:

Cold Turkey, no Nick patch or nothing.

Dallas Burnett:

He just woke up and was like, I am no longer a smoker.

Dallas Burnett:

And that was it.

Dallas Burnett:

That was incredible.

Dallas Burnett:

So I think that is one story I love sharing when we talk about the 1on1's,

Dallas Burnett:

because it's so powerful, but it also speaks, I want to always, I always

Dallas Burnett:

clarify with people, this is not this, I'm not Tony Robbins, and this is not,

Dallas Burnett:

this is not magic in a, in an app.

Dallas Burnett:

He was in a position that he was, it was, like you said, he

Dallas Burnett:

had been listened to a podcast

Kiel Bradley:

was open, to whatever.

Dallas Burnett:

he was a powder keg, looking for a match, and the

Dallas Burnett:

questions that we asked him on that Thursday just was the match.

Dallas Burnett:

That just kind of, that spark that just went boom and just was unbelievable

Dallas Burnett:

change, with coaching though.

Dallas Burnett:

We've had other people we've met with and coached, and I've had people I've

Dallas Burnett:

met with and coached that you start on, at the beginning there are not a powder

Dallas Burnett:

cake and it's a day at a time and it's a, and it's a long period of time before

Dallas Burnett:

you get a big change, and it might be many little changes, so you just don't

Dallas Burnett:

know what you're getting involved when you engage in a coaching relationship.

Dallas Burnett:

You just don't know, like you just don't know if you're walking in on

Dallas Burnett:

the powder keg or you're walking in on something that's gonna be

Dallas Burnett:

just a little bit here or there.

Kiel Bradley:

talk about coaching cuz that's what we're into now,

Kiel Bradley:

right?

Kiel Bradley:

So just how, what is your definition of a coach?

Dallas Burnett:

That's a great question.

Dallas Burnett:

I think, and we talk about this a

Kiel Bradley:

and there's many

Kiel Bradley:

definitions of,

Dallas Burnett:

No, I'm not saying anybody else's definition is wrong.

Dallas Burnett:

I believe that coaches, there's two main things that coaches do.

Dallas Burnett:

Two, two big things in terms of their perspective, and the way I define coaches

Dallas Burnett:

are people who engage in closing gaps.

Dallas Burnett:

And people who battle for belief.

Dallas Burnett:

And so let me, let me unpack that for a second.

Dallas Burnett:

So, I think a coach has a, just a real ability or desire.

Dallas Burnett:

even if you don't, even if you're not a visionary, it's not saying you're

Dallas Burnett:

a visionary, it's just being able to look at a situation or a person and see

Dallas Burnett:

where those gaps are and then engage with that person or that organization

Dallas Burnett:

in how to close those gaps and.

Dallas Burnett:

And so whether it's personality conflict or self-awareness problem

Dallas Burnett:

or whether it's a skills gap, you just don't have the knowledge or the

Dallas Burnett:

training or the expertise or experience.

Dallas Burnett:

You just can identify those gaps and then you engage with that person and

Dallas Burnett:

you don't necessarily fix it for 'em.

Dallas Burnett:

They've gotta do the work, but you engage with them in a way where

Dallas Burnett:

you can help them close that gap.

Dallas Burnett:

And I think one of the things that coaches do, and you spoke to it early on, is.

Dallas Burnett:

Is that you're in a battle for belief, right?

Dallas Burnett:

When you took over that little league basketball team, it was like, Hey, we

Dallas Burnett:

gotta begin to believe that we can win.

Dallas Burnett:

And so you are, as a coach, as a leader, coach, whether you're leading,

Dallas Burnett:

a small team or a large organization or yourself, you're constantly in a battle

Dallas Burnett:

for the belief because the belief.

Dallas Burnett:

Is something that shapes so much about who we are.

Dallas Burnett:

It shapes our perspective, it shapes our emotions.

Dallas Burnett:

It's, it shapes and all those things shape our actions.

Dallas Burnett:

And so if I want you to behave differently, I like starting

Dallas Burnett:

at the level of belief.

Dallas Burnett:

If I can get you to believe something differently, then I can

Dallas Burnett:

get you to behave differently.

Dallas Burnett:

And so I think coaches, if the great coaches engage at that level, at

Dallas Burnett:

that thought and belief level and so yeah, that's how I would define it.

Kiel Bradley:

So I'll say, speaking of some of that, that you just spoke,

Kiel Bradley:

I have, I've had the privilege and the opportunity to be alongside of

Kiel Bradley:

a high school coach coaching my son.

Kiel Bradley:

I've been on the bench, been at the practices.

Kiel Bradley:

so for me it, it became even, I've heard you say that before, like I've

Kiel Bradley:

heard that definition and my definition would've been, a coach is someone who.

Kiel Bradley:

It takes you from where you are to where you wanna go.

Kiel Bradley:

Yes,

Kiel Bradley:

Which is a thing that they do.

Kiel Bradley:

but you know, the component, like the coach, especially when you're trying

Kiel Bradley:

to learn something new, they need self-awareness because those young guys

Kiel Bradley:

out there, it's a young group of guys

Kiel Bradley:

and they're playing guys that are three or four years older.

Kiel Bradley:

Older

Kiel Bradley:

than them.

Kiel Bradley:

if I'm 25 and you're 28, it's not a big deal.

Kiel Bradley:

But I'm 15 and you're 18.

Kiel Bradley:

It's a big deal.

Kiel Bradley:

but so we need them to do what the coaches asked 'em to do.

Kiel Bradley:

And so if we had, the self-awareness turned so far up that those

Kiel Bradley:

guys were self-aware, they knew exactly what we were doing.

Kiel Bradley:

We wouldn't need a coach, we just need a teacher.

Kiel Bradley:

We would just come teach 'em new stuff.

Kiel Bradley:

Right.

Kiel Bradley:

We'd be good.

Kiel Bradley:

Yes.

Kiel Bradley:

Cause we wouldn't make mistakes.

Kiel Bradley:

Cause we would be, where do we need to be?

Kiel Bradley:

Every time

Kiel Bradley:

it would be a problem.

Kiel Bradley:

So like, I've seen that come to life just from sitting on a bench.

Dallas Burnett:

I like that.

Dallas Burnett:

That's really good.

Dallas Burnett:

And I think that's, whether it's a sports, whether it's high school

Dallas Burnett:

sports or kids sports or whether it's organization, it's being, it's that

Dallas Burnett:

identifying that those areas and as a coach we have to realize, I think our own.

Dallas Burnett:

Strengths and weaknesses because they're gonna play into that.

Dallas Burnett:

So I may be really good at identifying, organizational gaps, so then that's great.

Dallas Burnett:

I may be really good at identifying process.

Dallas Burnett:

and or system gaps or strategy gaps or marketing gaps or sales gaps?

Dallas Burnett:

Based on my experience, based on my history and or just on my capability,

Dallas Burnett:

when it gets down to the personal level, I may be really good at identifying

Dallas Burnett:

awareness gaps or maybe personal skill gaps, but there's gonna be some things

Dallas Burnett:

that I have to be aware of as well.

Dallas Burnett:

As a coach, you have to have that self-awareness, cuz if.

Dallas Burnett:

If I know that I'm really good in one area, but I'm not in another, then that's

Dallas Burnett:

why coaches have assistant coaches, that's why they have specialists.

Dallas Burnett:

That's why they bring in other people.

Dallas Burnett:

Same in organizations.

Dallas Burnett:

Like if I'm really good at one, aspect of business or of coaching or of, relating

Dallas Burnett:

with individuals, it doesn't, I can improve other areas, but it doesn't

Dallas Burnett:

necessarily mean that I don't need help.

Dallas Burnett:

And so as a coach, I'm here to close gaps, but that doesn't mean I have

Dallas Burnett:

to be all things to all people.

Dallas Burnett:

So as a coach, that's one of the cool things.

Kiel Bradley:

coach you have some gaps too.

Kiel Bradley:

We all have

Kiel Bradley:

gaps, Yeah.

Dallas Burnett:

right?

Dallas Burnett:

So I need a coach just as, as much as anybody else does.

Dallas Burnett:

all right.

Dallas Burnett:

so let's talk about the 1on1's system.

Dallas Burnett:

So we've now, we've kind of gone through the beginning of kind of the genesis

Dallas Burnett:

of the thought and we've rolled it out.

Dallas Burnett:

We've began to roll it out in the company.

Dallas Burnett:

We've gone through it.

Dallas Burnett:

We demoed it for like three or four months and then we decided this is

Dallas Burnett:

definitely something we're going to do.

Dallas Burnett:

The scores were really good compared to what we were doing

Dallas Burnett:

with performance reviews.

Dallas Burnett:

So we said, okay, we're gonna roll this thing out company wide,

Dallas Burnett:

and we start rolling it out.

Dallas Burnett:

I think there was like a third of the people that were like, yes, we are ready.

Dallas Burnett:

I think a third of the people were like, take it or leave it.

Dallas Burnett:

I don't know.

Dallas Burnett:

It's just some other program, whatever.

Dallas Burnett:

And then I think a third of people were like, No way.

Dallas Burnett:

Not gonna happen.

Dallas Burnett:

Don't wanna do this.

Dallas Burnett:

And was really pushing back.

Dallas Burnett:

Tell me some of, like, I, I think of your, when you've been doing

Dallas Burnett:

the 1on1's, you've actually, funny enough, I think you've actually been

Dallas Burnett:

doing the 1on1's longer than anybody.

Dallas Burnett:

There's, because you were part of the demo, so you were literally a

Dallas Burnett:

part of the first demo, the 1on1's.

Dallas Burnett:

So there's nobody that's been doing one oh ones longer than you.

Kiel Bradley:

I'm a technical expert in one.

Dallas Burnett:

You are definitely a tailor.

Dallas Burnett:

So tell me some of the things like you have, you've kind of

Dallas Burnett:

used it for different things.

Dallas Burnett:

Tell me some of the ways that you've used the 1on1's coaching system.

Kiel Bradley:

so much you talked about earlier, we talked about

Kiel Bradley:

the one conversation that was like mind blowing, but you also spoke

Kiel Bradley:

of, Hey, let's just do this thing.

Kiel Bradley:

Let's consistently routinely do this thing together.

Kiel Bradley:

And so I was able to, over a course of many months, work with the guy

Kiel Bradley:

to, to eventually be able to take my position as operations manager.

Kiel Bradley:

So the way that started out was, hey man, are they making you do this?

Kiel Bradley:

Or like, are you wanting to do, why are you, what's going on?

Kiel Bradley:

Cause are you wanting to do this?

Kiel Bradley:

I'm like, yeah, and here's why.

Dallas Burnett:

So he was saying, he was

Kiel Bradley:

are you

Dallas Burnett:

unsure, like he's saying, are you wanting to do these 1on1's or

Dallas Burnett:

is this something they're making you do?

Dallas Burnett:

Because he's testing you to say, do you believe this?

Dallas Burnett:

Because, I don't know, I'm not sure.

Kiel Bradley:

I had enough experience in it that, I was able to say why we would

Kiel Bradley:

do this, why would we wanna do this?

Kiel Bradley:

those commitments early on were, they were personal type commitments, which are fine

Kiel Bradley:

because my goal in a 1on1's is to help you move.

Kiel Bradley:

I don't care if it's professionally or if it's at home because at

Kiel Bradley:

the end of the day, I got you.

Kiel Bradley:

I got the whole you.

Kiel Bradley:

And if I got a good you at home, I'm gonna have a good you at work.

Kiel Bradley:

If I gotta stress you at home, you're coming to work

Kiel Bradley:

stressed.

Kiel Bradley:

Yeah.

Kiel Bradley:

And you're making me stress

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah,

Kiel Bradley:

but over time that conversation went from do

Kiel Bradley:

you believe in it basically is what he's asking, like you said

Kiel Bradley:

to, then he started looking more towards the future of like,

Kiel Bradley:

okay, now I see what's coming.

Kiel Bradley:

there's always two ways.

Kiel Bradley:

There's, it's always about the approach on when you wanna do something.

Kiel Bradley:

he had identified something that is, I would like this to change inside

Kiel Bradley:

of our, in our, small company.

Kiel Bradley:

I could just go tell them directly, like, Hey, make sure your stuff is up to par

Kiel Bradley:

because it's substandard right now.

Kiel Bradley:

Or I could give them a means to make sure their stuff is up to standard

Kiel Bradley:

and explain to 'em how important it is to me for it to be up standard and,

Dallas Burnett:

So you're saying that he, so he had an idea, like,

Dallas Burnett:

so he had an idea for this new.

Dallas Burnett:

So let's drop back before that.

Dallas Burnett:

Y'all had an interesting

Kiel Bradley:

That is true.

Kiel Bradley:

I skipped past

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah.

Kiel Bradley:

and I blew my mind

Dallas Burnett:

no.

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah.

Dallas Burnett:

So let's ju so tell us like, so you're meeting with this guy, and he is

Dallas Burnett:

kind of being, you're kind of, you've made it known to him that he's kind

Dallas Burnett:

of, on this path that will end up, potentially in, taking over this.

Dallas Burnett:

This role of operations manager.

Dallas Burnett:

So in the meantime though, you're having these 1on1's every month and

Dallas Burnett:

then one, 1on1's comes up and it's like,

Kiel Bradley:

Yeah,

Kiel Bradley:

I would say so.

Kiel Bradley:

The first one was, do you believe, and then we had a few more just routine

Kiel Bradley:

conversations in like four or five, six, somewhere in there, six months we're

Kiel Bradley:

doing this.

Kiel Bradley:

And it like, Hey man, what's the most important thing

Kiel Bradley:

that we can talk about today?

Kiel Bradley:

And he goes, I'd like to talk about our relationship.

Dallas Burnett:

Now is.

Kiel Bradley:

two guys sitting in a

Kiel Bradley:

room.

Kiel Bradley:

This is

Dallas Burnett:

not, y this is not like I can't paint the picture of how,

Dallas Burnett:

not this unexpected this would be.

Kiel Bradley:

I.

Kiel Bradley:

You never know what might, when you ask that question, you don't know what

Kiel Bradley:

might be said.

Kiel Bradley:

I didn't think we were gonna talk about our relationship that day,

Dallas Burnett:

But just for,

Kiel Bradley:

because to be clear, we had never done

Kiel Bradley:

that before.

Dallas Burnett:

That's just not something that you expect to hear, to.

Dallas Burnett:

Guys that's, just coming to work.

Dallas Burnett:

They're just doing their

Kiel Bradley:

like, Hey man, should we hold hands or something?

Kiel Bradley:

Or like,

Dallas Burnett:

But he says that and you're like, oh, okay,

Kiel Bradley:

What about it?

Dallas Burnett:

Let's go.

Dallas Burnett:

And so what

Kiel Bradley:

there was something that was on his mind that was bothering him that

Kiel Bradley:

he felt like, maybe what I said wasn't, I wasn't fulfilling what I had said

Kiel Bradley:

maybe.

Kiel Bradley:

Yeah.

Kiel Bradley:

And the man, when he said what was on his mind, it was so trivial and

Kiel Bradley:

it didn't have, I started laughing.

Kiel Bradley:

I'm like, oh, let me explain to you why that happened.

Kiel Bradley:

so there was something that had happened that he, people like you've told me is

Kiel Bradley:

people fill in the blank with negative

Kiel Bradley:

And he had negative thoughts in his head about his path and his journey.

Kiel Bradley:

so we took a timeout, we corrected his issue and like, just like that.

Kiel Bradley:

We're good, man.

Dallas Burnett:

It was just like that.

Dallas Burnett:

at the table, he, you could already feel the tension to his,

Dallas Burnett:

like, cuz you addressed the issue.

Dallas Burnett:

And it was his lack of, he just, he didn't have all the information and then

Dallas Burnett:

he filled in the gap of the negative.

Dallas Burnett:

And then in, in hearing that you right there in the 1on1's

Dallas Burnett:

are able to just immediately address that, lack of information.

Dallas Burnett:

Say, oh, let me, let me open it up to you.

Dallas Burnett:

And so you can see the whole thing when you did that.

Dallas Burnett:

He's like, oh, I see.

Dallas Burnett:

And then it's easy and it's just

Dallas Burnett:

like,

Kiel Bradley:

went from, are you sure?

Kiel Bradley:

To now let's talk about the way we interact with each other.

Kiel Bradley:

the other story we told was, working on corrective action for a team,

Dallas Burnett:

So he's saying now after that, he comes back and he's saying, I

Dallas Burnett:

need to get the team to move in this new

Dallas Burnett:

direction.

Kiel Bradley:

a realization like, Hey, this might be my responsibility,

Kiel Bradley:

so I wanna start working on that

Dallas Burnett:

So he's automatically taking ownership and he's starting

Dallas Burnett:

to do that by saying I want to be a positive impact on the team, and I'm

Dallas Burnett:

seeing some issues that bother me.

Dallas Burnett:

And obviously I wanna make 'em better.

Dallas Burnett:

How do I do that?

Dallas Burnett:

And y'all are having these conversations inside of the 1on1's.

Kiel Bradley:

Because that was the most important thing we could talk

Kiel Bradley:

about that

Dallas Burnett:

is the most important thing you can talk about.

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah.

Dallas Burnett:

in case you haven't gone to the 1on1's, one of the questions is, what's the

Dallas Burnett:

most important thing we can talk about?

Dallas Burnett:

And it is a loaded question and it comes up every month.

Dallas Burnett:

And so that is one of those questions that you just never know.

Dallas Burnett:

You never know where that's going.

Dallas Burnett:

And you never know what's gonna come back.

Dallas Burnett:

It could be something personal, professional, and like you said,

Dallas Burnett:

one, one week, it's, are you sure that this is what you wanna do?

Dallas Burnett:

The next week gets, wanna talk about our relationship?

Dallas Burnett:

And then the next week is, I've got this idea, right.

Dallas Burnett:

He came up, he ultimately came up with an idea to solve that team's

Dallas Burnett:

problem that was, duplicated throughout the entire organization.

Dallas Burnett:

Right.

Kiel Bradley:

Oh, the organization loved it when that

Kiel Bradley:

was revealed to 'em, like, wow,

Kiel Bradley:

how did you do that?

Kiel Bradley:

I would like that.

Dallas Burnett:

Wow.

Dallas Burnett:

So it was really well received and it's almost like he had to go

Dallas Burnett:

through that process cuz that idea he had been sitting on for a while.

Dallas Burnett:

He may have, he may or may not have shared it.

Dallas Burnett:

He may have shared it later.

Dallas Burnett:

He may have shared it, because he was kind of frustrated.

Kiel Bradley:

He may have never

Kiel Bradley:

shared

Dallas Burnett:

have never shared it, So I think that's really cool.

Dallas Burnett:

that's a great story.

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah, that's a really good story.

Dallas Burnett:

So I think that also 1on1's you've been using them

Dallas Burnett:

different with different people.

Dallas Burnett:

So that is one example.

Dallas Burnett:

you've, you were kind of using a 1on1's and I think that's what we would like

Dallas Burnett:

to, convey always to our, any clients that we have, is that a 1on1's coaching

Dallas Burnett:

system is a tool and a platform.

Dallas Burnett:

So it's a communication tool that helps people.

Dallas Burnett:

Grow and build trust with their team members and their, employees

Dallas Burnett:

at the same time getting to know those team members and employees.

Dallas Burnett:

But also holding those team members and employees accountable to commitments

Dallas Burnett:

that they make, that they wanna keep.

Dallas Burnett:

And then as a coach, your job and role is that, like we said,

Dallas Burnett:

looking and finding those gaps.

Dallas Burnett:

So you're encouraging that.

Dallas Burnett:

And so while we don't, judge, if somebody's, made a personal commitment

Dallas Burnett:

to lose five pounds, they lost three.

Dallas Burnett:

I'm celebrating the fact that, hey, you're three pounds lighter this

Dallas Burnett:

month than you were last month.

Dallas Burnett:

But hey, where did

Kiel Bradley:

our goal in that was some movement, and we got some movement,

Kiel Bradley:

We didn't hit the goal.

Kiel Bradley:

We didn't hit the target, but we have movement towards it.

Kiel Bradley:

So that's a win.

Dallas Burnett:

It's a win.

Dallas Burnett:

It's a win.

Dallas Burnett:

But as a coach, I'm gonna sit there and I'm just gonna lean in just a little bit

Dallas Burnett:

more to the person and not judge them.

Dallas Burnett:

But I'm gonna say, so let's talk about how, where did the process break down

Dallas Burnett:

to that we didn't make it to five, and now I'm focusing on the process.

Dallas Burnett:

I'm not focusing on the person, I'm not making it personal.

Dallas Burnett:

And saying, you are a failure because you didn't get, five pounds.

Dallas Burnett:

I'm saying, what is it about the process?

Dallas Burnett:

did you have too many cheat days on the diet?

Dallas Burnett:

Is that what broke down?

Dallas Burnett:

Okay, all right, at least we know.

Dallas Burnett:

Do we want to try this again and go for five again or do we wanna have

Dallas Burnett:

a different commitment this month?

Dallas Burnett:

So I'll, I, typically I'll let people to, to go on and if I'm

Dallas Burnett:

doing a 1on1's, I'll give them that.

Dallas Burnett:

Like, if they're gonna make that, commitment on the beginning,

Dallas Burnett:

I'll be like, okay, you can make that for the first few times.

Dallas Burnett:

Then I'm gonna start pushing 'em a little bit.

Dallas Burnett:

I'm like, eh, or if I have a point, like I have somewhere I'm wanting to

Dallas Burnett:

take them, then it's gonna be like you said, we're gonna start guiding that

Kiel Bradley:

I would say that in my experience in doing it, the first ones are

Kiel Bradley:

gonna be kind of like things like that.

Kiel Bradley:

Mine was like, mine to you was I'm just gonna drink water for 30 days.

Kiel Bradley:

I thought that was super simple.

Dallas Burnett:

That's right.

Kiel Bradley:

Go ahead and get up and have breakfast and drink some water.

Kiel Bradley:

See how that, the 30th day, I think we had to go have some Dr.

Kiel Bradley:

Pepper.

Dallas Burnett:

We did.

Kiel Bradley:

Okay.

Kiel Bradley:

So those are easy.

Kiel Bradley:

And you like, so the hardest part, like people just don't

Kiel Bradley:

want don't instantly open up to

Kiel Bradley:

you, right?

Kiel Bradley:

That's right.

Kiel Bradley:

So they don't wanna be vulnerable in that way.

Kiel Bradley:

So they think this is easy and it's low hanging fruit and that's okay.

Kiel Bradley:

Do you know for the first time?

Kiel Bradley:

What I've noticed though, over time, they'll tend to turn and

Kiel Bradley:

they'll focus on the things that they really, what matters to them.

Kiel Bradley:

Yes.

Kiel Bradley:

If they won't tell you that straight up, this is really important to

Kiel Bradley:

me, you'll start looking at their pattern and you'll start honing

Kiel Bradley:

in on what's important to them.

Dallas Burnett:

you'll see what's important to them.

Dallas Burnett:

I think too, it's a very, it's almost like a trust barometer.

Dallas Burnett:

If I'm giving a 1on1's to somebody, then I should expect, unless I've

Dallas Burnett:

got deep trust with them, we've worked together for a long time and

Dallas Burnett:

we have really good relationship.

Dallas Burnett:

I would expect them to be more like, I'm just gonna give you a light

Dallas Burnett:

answer because I haven't put, I haven't laid the foundation of trust.

Dallas Burnett:

But after you go through this and you spend six months listening to people

Dallas Burnett:

reflect on things on their mind that they haven't maybe thought about a lot,

Dallas Burnett:

or you listen and care about what's most important to them, and then you move

Dallas Burnett:

and help them move and help them close gaps, you cannot help but build trust.

Dallas Burnett:

And when you start building that trust, then all of a sudden those answers.

Dallas Burnett:

To become more, more vulnerable and more real.

Dallas Burnett:

And I think that's what people appreciate is that when you get to that level of

Dallas Burnett:

authenticity, you can have those real conversations and really make progress.

Dallas Burnett:

like whether it's work or home.

Dallas Burnett:

we talk about in 1on1's that we're not there to solve people's problems.

Dallas Burnett:

We had, I remember, one of the in, in another, Place.

Dallas Burnett:

We had a, a coach that had a team member that approached them and

Dallas Burnett:

said they were struggling with their marriage on that question.

Dallas Burnett:

that's not a work question per se, but if you think that person is not bringing

Dallas Burnett:

that stress from their home life to work, you are, just, you're not, I don't

Dallas Burnett:

know what planet you're living on, but

Kiel Bradley:

are unaware

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah, exactly.

Dallas Burnett:

Or you

Kiel Bradley:

if everybody else knows it and you don't.

Kiel Bradley:

It's called a blind spot.

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah.

Dallas Burnett:

And that's the blind spot that, and I would say that's right.

Dallas Burnett:

So what that coach did, what was fantastic was, and we coach on this when we are

Dallas Burnett:

doing implementation of the 1on1's and training coaches on how to do it.

Dallas Burnett:

Cause it's a very easy system.

Dallas Burnett:

But there's a few things like this that we like to go over and that is that he

Dallas Burnett:

directed the person in the 1on1's to go get help and said, would you hear, let's

Dallas Burnett:

look up a number, somebody you could call.

Dallas Burnett:

And, that.

Dallas Burnett:

Particular, organization I think had a chaplain program or an employee

Dallas Burnett:

assistance program or something like that to where they he said, let's

Dallas Burnett:

get the number, got the number.

Dallas Burnett:

Would you commit to calling this and talking to somebody about it?

Dallas Burnett:

And I think that's really great because, he, contacted me after just,

Dallas Burnett:

I don't think I did really well with this cuz I'm not a counselor and this

Kiel Bradley:

That was one of those you weren't

Kiel Bradley:

expecting.

Dallas Burnett:

coach.

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah.

Dallas Burnett:

He was like, oh my gosh.

Dallas Burnett:

Did not know.

Dallas Burnett:

But I was like, you did great.

Dallas Burnett:

What'd you do?

Dallas Burnett:

I just listened.

Dallas Burnett:

It was great.

Dallas Burnett:

And he said, I made the commitment, where he would call and get help.

Dallas Burnett:

I said, that's perfect.

Dallas Burnett:

You're not his counselor, but you're helping him close his

Dallas Burnett:

gaps and and you're more aware.

Dallas Burnett:

So as a leader you're more aware.

Dallas Burnett:

And if he comes in on Monday morning and he's, had a rough weekend at home,

Dallas Burnett:

then you can be sensitive to that and maybe not put him in a really

Dallas Burnett:

stressful environment on Monday morning.

Dallas Burnett:

just cuz if you don't know, then he's just getting on the schedule and it's.

Dallas Burnett:

To where the chips fall, So I think it's really good for being proactive.

Dallas Burnett:

And I know I've talked about personal examples like weight and, working out

Dallas Burnett:

and now, relationship issues and marital issues, but you've used it as well for

Dallas Burnett:

work and making commitments for that and in helping a guy get into, increase their

Dallas Burnett:

position or even coaching skills, right?

Kiel Bradley:

So what I've found after doing it for quite a while now is.

Kiel Bradley:

What makes it easy are helping people.

Kiel Bradley:

So people are gonna struggle with making a commitment.

Kiel Bradley:

It's gonna be a struggle for

Kiel Bradley:

them because why do I believe it is?

Kiel Bradley:

Because it's like, man, he's gonna ask me about it.

Kiel Bradley:

So I, there is some accountability there.

Kiel Bradley:

I don't wanna let this person down.

Kiel Bradley:

So I feel some stress on that, but I don't wanna push it so far.

Kiel Bradley:

Like I don't want to stretch myself out too far.

Kiel Bradley:

So I want, I've had many ones I do over and over where that we do

Kiel Bradley:

like really simple to get goals.

Kiel Bradley:

Okay.

Kiel Bradley:

That's fine for a while, but then we wanna stretch some more.

Kiel Bradley:

But, yeah, I would say, what, oh, what's helpful in that is it's

Kiel Bradley:

helpful to have a really big goal

Kiel Bradley:

that's way out there.

Kiel Bradley:

And then we can use month after month to work on a piece of it.

Kiel Bradley:

A piece of it, a piece of it.

Kiel Bradley:

And over time you'll be shocked.

Kiel Bradley:

Kind of like when I am, when I look back on what the, my, my journey,

Kiel Bradley:

it's like, wow, we've came a long way,

Kiel Bradley:

but it didn't feel like a big journey to get

Dallas Burnett:

yeah.

Dallas Burnett:

Just let, just little steps.

Dallas Burnett:

I think that's a great point.

Dallas Burnett:

I think that's one of the things that we really focus on when we are

Dallas Burnett:

training on the 1on1's is that we're not looking for, we call it 1% advantage.

Dallas Burnett:

We are not looking for.

Dallas Burnett:

We're not looking for these huge, massive increases.

Dallas Burnett:

And I think sometimes in, in performance reviews, maybe we'll do

Dallas Burnett:

a podcast on performance reviews.

Dallas Burnett:

Sometimes I have a lot to say about performance reviews.

Dallas Burnett:

Not much is

Kiel Bradley:

they are

Dallas Burnett:

No,

Kiel Bradley:

about the politicking,

Kiel Bradley:

the

Dallas Burnett:

gonna do, yeah.

Dallas Burnett:

So bad.

Kiel Bradley:

to the right number.

Kiel Bradley:

We

Dallas Burnett:

we don't have, we don't even have enough time

Dallas Burnett:

in today to get in all that mess.

Kiel Bradley:

wanna have that

Dallas Burnett:

oh my gosh.

Kiel Bradley:

That's why we're here today.

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah, that's right.

Dallas Burnett:

Exactly.

Dallas Burnett:

however, I feel like one of the things in performance reviews that people get caught

Dallas Burnett:

up on is this massive corrective action.

Dallas Burnett:

Like, I've gotta do this to get a raise, or, you've been doing this bad

Dallas Burnett:

and we haven't really said anything.

Dallas Burnett:

Sometimes that works out.

Dallas Burnett:

It's like they don't even say anything about it cuz it's not bad enough.

Dallas Burnett:

But then all of a sudden you're gonna get this, you're not really

Dallas Burnett:

doing this up to the, par, so we're

Kiel Bradley:

I really consider your performance, it's quite

Kiel Bradley:

terrible, but I haven't thought about it until this, these 12 months have

Kiel Bradley:

passed.

Dallas Burnett:

hasn't been bad enough for me to fire you, so I've just let you

Dallas Burnett:

get away with it for the last 12 months.

Dallas Burnett:

Now I'm gonna tell you about it and really, smash your hopes and dreams

Dallas Burnett:

right here on the performance.

Dallas Burnett:

And then I'm gonna send you out and you're supposed to be able to correct

Dallas Burnett:

this and I'm not gonna really give you any resources cuz I haven't

Dallas Burnett:

told you about it in a year anyway.

Dallas Burnett:

And yeah, I mean there's just a lot there.

Dallas Burnett:

I love that about the 1on1's though because it gives us a tool whether you

Dallas Burnett:

do performance reviews or not, it gives you a tool that you can go after this.

Dallas Burnett:

Small incremental change so you can get that 1% advantage, and I'm making a

Dallas Burnett:

commitment that's gonna get 1% better.

Dallas Burnett:

I had somebody, on one of their 1on1's and said, look, I'm really

Dallas Burnett:

okay with Microsoft teams, but I don't really know it really well.

Dallas Burnett:

I'd like to watch three YouTube videos on Microsoft Teams.

Dallas Burnett:

Now that may sound like ridiculous, like who makes that commitment?

Dallas Burnett:

I loved it.

Dallas Burnett:

I thought that was fantastic because this person.

Dallas Burnett:

Was slow on Microsoft teams and couldn't use it to its full capability.

Dallas Burnett:

And that's one of the things that we use a lot in platform.

Dallas Burnett:

And so it's like, Hey, if you do that, then all of a sudden, if I say if I

Dallas Burnett:

take those, if it's just 10 minutes this month, but that 10 minutes returns

Dallas Burnett:

investment on every time you get on Microsoft Teams, it saves you 10 minutes.

Dallas Burnett:

Then over the course of a year, if we get on team every single

Dallas Burnett:

day, and for some form or fashion.

Dallas Burnett:

I've just saved days.

Kiel Bradley:

that person is gaining time, but

Kiel Bradley:

also all your teammates are doing it too,

Kiel Bradley:

so a small corrective action can lead to a huge result.

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah.

Dallas Burnett:

I like that.

Dallas Burnett:

I like that.

Dallas Burnett:

What's some of the most, and as you think about the 1on1's, and I liked

Dallas Burnett:

how you said when you first started giving 'em, what's for you and for

Dallas Burnett:

people that in your organization you kind of are around, what's some of the

Dallas Burnett:

most challenging things about a 1on1's?

Dallas Burnett:

Cuz it's still something you have to be intentional about.

Kiel Bradley:

Yeah.

Kiel Bradley:

So for me personally, making sure you do 'em is, that sounds really weird.

Kiel Bradley:

we talked about all the great things that come from 'em, be like, oh, we

Kiel Bradley:

should be willing to do these every day.

Kiel Bradley:

we would be, but you know, you can get busy and you can set that to the

Kiel Bradley:

side because you get busy on the work.

Kiel Bradley:

So we have to value those and make sure we do 'em.

Kiel Bradley:

So like my, a thing that I struggle with is making sure like, hey, like

Kiel Bradley:

at the turn of the year, boom, that was my, my commitment for 2023.

Kiel Bradley:

Let's make sure these folks get these things monthly.

Kiel Bradley:

Just for the person, getting them at the most important thing we can talk

Kiel Bradley:

about and the commitment, which I would say though that the, be prepared

Kiel Bradley:

in it that more times than not, I've heard had this happen several times.

Kiel Bradley:

what do you think I could work on?

Dallas Burnett:

Oh, wow.

Dallas Burnett:

that's an invitation.

Kiel Bradley:

So you wanna have something for them

Kiel Bradley:

at that point.

Kiel Bradley:

that's where you gotta be careful on the judgemental side or, you

Kiel Bradley:

don't wanna beat anybody down.

Kiel Bradley:

But, So I've noticed that though, you gotta be ready for what?

Kiel Bradley:

What do you think I could improve on?

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah, that's great.

Dallas Burnett:

I think that's, I think that's true, and I do think that the commitment

Dallas Burnett:

piece is difficult for people and.

Dallas Burnett:

And I think that we've, we actually did a training video and it's in the

Dallas Burnett:

app that just talks about all these different example commitments that

Dallas Burnett:

team members and coaches can look at.

Dallas Burnett:

Because sometimes it's hard, if you, especially if you don't have a very

Dallas Burnett:

clear goal, we have a place in the app where you can put those goals.

Dallas Burnett:

But, and actually we're looking at even revamping that and making

Dallas Burnett:

it more robust to where we could partner with coaches to help.

Dallas Burnett:

The, help them walk through the goal setting process and break it down a

Dallas Burnett:

little bit so that they actually can have more of that inside the app.

Dallas Burnett:

And so we've got some things coming on that we'll talk about now.

Dallas Burnett:

All right.

Dallas Burnett:

So I'm gonna break some, I'm gonna drop some more information here.

Kiel Bradley:

Uh oh.

Dallas Burnett:

All right.

Dallas Burnett:

So this is really good

Kiel Bradley:

Inside

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah.

Dallas Burnett:

This is inside fastball.

Dallas Burnett:

Here we go.

Dallas Burnett:

So we've been talking about this book, this, it's coming out.

Dallas Burnett:

Sense, like, I don't know, forever and we're excited about it and

Dallas Burnett:

we're getting close, but we had, we were, we thought we were gonna

Dallas Burnett:

launch right after the first year.

Dallas Burnett:

We were ex really excited about launching.

Dallas Burnett:

We actually ne, we actually said the name, it's called Lyft.

Dallas Burnett:

We actually said the name in December.

Dallas Burnett:

We're like, because it's coming.

Dallas Burnett:

And then we got after the first year and we're almost, we were almost that.

Dallas Burnett:

And we were like, Nope.

Dallas Burnett:

we gotta be better.

Dallas Burnett:

We gotta be better.

Dallas Burnett:

And so we're working with the publisher.

Dallas Burnett:

We went back to the drawing board and we're redoing it to make it even better.

Dallas Burnett:

And we're getting really close.

Dallas Burnett:

And I love it.

Dallas Burnett:

I think it's gonna be great.

Dallas Burnett:

It's really gonna be good.

Dallas Burnett:

And it has a lot to do with the levers that you pull to change the culture.

Dallas Burnett:

But what I would say is also, as it relates to this conversation, see

Dallas Burnett:

you're in the genesis of so many things.

Kiel Bradley:

Tell you what are we gonna

Kiel Bradley:

do next?

Dallas Burnett:

totally, you're totally at the genesis.

Dallas Burnett:

So not only were you at the genesis of the 1on1's, but like our times together

Dallas Burnett:

on those Monday mornings spawned some of the concepts that are in this

Kiel Bradley:

Oh boy.

Dallas Burnett:

And s and a lot of what we did in your organization

Dallas Burnett:

is laid the foundation of a lot of what's in this book.

Dallas Burnett:

And this book's all about culture and how you intentionally cultivate.

Dallas Burnett:

and strengthen cultures of a team and cultures of an organization.

Dallas Burnett:

And it's written as a business fable, so it's easy to read, but

Dallas Burnett:

we've just dropped some just great tools in there that are really good.

Dallas Burnett:

So you actually have seen some iterations of it and, and know some of the lingo.

Dallas Burnett:

yeah.

Dallas Burnett:

So we're excited to have that come out.

Dallas Burnett:

So now we're hoping to have an end of the summer.

Dallas Burnett:

Launch we're hoping.

Dallas Burnett:

And, we were feeling really good about it.

Dallas Burnett:

In fact, we had this special, I was speaking at an event, I was speaking

Dallas Burnett:

at an event two weeks ago and actually opened up a little pre-sale opportunity,

Dallas Burnett:

so they got a little pre-sale.

Dallas Burnett:

We're not advertising that.

Kiel Bradley:

since this is the one year anniversary and the present

Kiel Bradley:

they can offer up is a review,

Kiel Bradley:

maybe they could actually bring presents for the book won't.

Dallas Burnett:

Oh, ah,

Kiel Bradley:

Oh,

Dallas Burnett:

that's funny.

Dallas Burnett:

Okay, this was unplanned, this was unrehearsed.

Dallas Burnett:

I

Kiel Bradley:

Which is, we do our best work in that environment.

Dallas Burnett:

that is totally true.

Dallas Burnett:

we're totally, yeah.

Dallas Burnett:

Just spontaneous.

Dallas Burnett:

today, spontaneously, we are going to, we're gonna put in, I'm gonna put in.

Dallas Burnett:

I'll put in the note show notes.

Dallas Burnett:

So if you're listening to this and you've made it to this, into this episode,

Dallas Burnett:

I'll put in the show notes a link to Amazon for the pre-sale of the book,

Dallas Burnett:

and right now, Just, while, you're listening to this episode right now.

Dallas Burnett:

The price is as low as we can make it on Amazon.

Dallas Burnett:

We literally put it down as low as possible on Amazon.

Dallas Burnett:

So if you go on Amazon and buy the pre-sale, the book will be out.

Dallas Burnett:

I'm not even sure the cover is already gonna, has already changed since the

Dallas Burnett:

cover that we loaded on the pre-sale.

Dallas Burnett:

So it's gonna be kind of closed, but it's not even the same cover.

Dallas Burnett:

But if you go on Amazon, look at the pre-show.

Dallas Burnett:

If you go on the notes and you look at the pre-sale, the book, you can buy

Dallas Burnett:

it and it's at the lowest price you'll ever be able to get it for as an e-book.

Dallas Burnett:

And then when the hard copy comes out, we'll make that available as well.

Dallas Burnett:

But, all this will be out, towards the end of the summer

Dallas Burnett:

and we're really pumped about it.

Dallas Burnett:

So is there anything else you wanna talk about On 1on1's?

Dallas Burnett:

Man, thank you for being here

Dallas Burnett:

today.

Dallas Burnett:

You

Kiel Bradley:

it's been fun.

Kiel Bradley:

Yeah.

Kiel Bradley:

I feel like we've really went through it.

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah.

Dallas Burnett:

All right.

Kiel Bradley:

I would say one thing.

Dallas Burnett:

Mm

Kiel Bradley:

I find it much easier.

Kiel Bradley:

I like using it to get to know someone.

Kiel Bradley:

I find that much easier to do

Dallas Burnett:

Really?

Dallas Burnett:

So you like, you feel like it's almost harder to do it with somebody that you

Dallas Burnett:

really feel like you already know Cause you've worked with 'em a long time.

Dallas Burnett:

Whereas if you don't know somebody, this is like, oh, this is great

Dallas Burnett:

this

Dallas Burnett:

is what we use to get to know.

Dallas Burnett:

that's good.

Dallas Burnett:

That's good.

Kiel Bradley:

Then other thing I would say is after you've done it for some

Kiel Bradley:

time, you, you use it right to get those questions out there, but it really

Kiel Bradley:

turns into a conversation at that point.

Kiel Bradley:

It's not structured and rigid.

Kiel Bradley:

it's just like, Hey, we're, we know this is coming up and we know we gotta do it.

Kiel Bradley:

I'm gonna plan some time for this, and then we're just gonna go into

Kiel Bradley:

it and it becomes way more natural.

Kiel Bradley:

It's gonna feel awkward at first if if you've never done it.

Kiel Bradley:

Yes.

Kiel Bradley:

You gotta get through that.

Kiel Bradley:

But then it becomes so it, it becomes of just, Hey, this is who you are.

Kiel Bradley:

This is what we do.

Dallas Burnett:

I love that.

Dallas Burnett:

I love that you have to get over the hump and it's like you have

Dallas Burnett:

to get past the first three.

Dallas Burnett:

And I tell this to everybody that starts Look, just assume that

Dallas Burnett:

you're just gonna feel weird the first three times you do a 1on1's.

Dallas Burnett:

It is what it is, and you're building a new habit.

Dallas Burnett:

And it's really important habit, but it's worth it.

Dallas Burnett:

And after you get past the first three, it's like, oh

Dallas Burnett:

yeah, and you know what's funny?

Dallas Burnett:

And this is what.

Dallas Burnett:

This is what I've seen.

Dallas Burnett:

and you may have seen the same thing after you do about three.

Dallas Burnett:

That's when I, after the third, I don't know why three is the one, but like

Dallas Burnett:

after the third one, you start getting people, I'll start getting people come

Dallas Burnett:

up and they'll be like, I knew you was gonna ask me, you know this, question.

Dallas Burnett:

of course you did.

Dallas Burnett:

We ask it every month.

Dallas Burnett:

But after the third time, for some reason it's like that kicks in their brain and

Dallas Burnett:

they're like, and so I've been thinking since last week about my commitment.

Dallas Burnett:

And I'm like, oh really?

Kiel Bradley:

Let's hear it.

Dallas Burnett:

And I'm like, let's go.

Dallas Burnett:

This is gonna be good.

Dallas Burnett:

Or I've been thinking since last week, what's the most important thing We talked

Dallas Burnett:

and I'm just sitting there amazed because that small habit and intentionality

Dallas Burnett:

of us getting together once a month and just sitting down and having that

Dallas Burnett:

conversation breeds amazing thought for like over a week on how to get better.

Dallas Burnett:

Like, what.

Dallas Burnett:

Company owner.

Dallas Burnett:

What leader in a company or manager in a company?

Dallas Burnett:

What?

Dallas Burnett:

What person doesn't want their team members thinking every week about

Dallas Burnett:

how they're gonna get better and grow to be better for the team?

Dallas Burnett:

who doesn't want that?

Dallas Burnett:

I mean, that's.

Dallas Burnett:

That's incredible.

Dallas Burnett:

I would love that.

Dallas Burnett:

And that's when you start seeing high performing teams and teams

Dallas Burnett:

that, that take it to the next level that want that growth.

Dallas Burnett:

And yet, like we just don't, we, it's simple habits and routines that we just

Dallas Burnett:

don't do, that, that keep us from it.

Dallas Burnett:

So I think that's right.

Dallas Burnett:

you just gotta sit through those first three.

Dallas Burnett:

You gotta get it done, you gotta get through it.

Dallas Burnett:

And then, And you get over the hump and you're good to go.

Dallas Burnett:

So that's really good.

Dallas Burnett:

That's really good.

Dallas Burnett:

All right.

Dallas Burnett:

all right.

Dallas Burnett:

We ask every guest at the end of the last 10%, if there's anybody that

Dallas Burnett:

they would like to hear on the show.

Kiel Bradley:

much what's the most important thing we talk about today

Kiel Bradley:

and what do you wanna commit to?

Kiel Bradley:

I know this is coming because I'm a regular listener to the show.

Dallas Burnett:

Oh.

Kiel Bradley:

hey, I put a little thought

Kiel Bradley:

to

Dallas Burnett:

I'm excited.

Kiel Bradley:

And, so you and I are very aligned.

Kiel Bradley:

We're nearly the same age.

Kiel Bradley:

You have three kids.

Kiel Bradley:

I have three kids.

Kiel Bradley:

The only difference we have is like, you're a big time Clemson Tiger fan.

Kiel Bradley:

I am,

Kiel Bradley:

and I'm, I'm a game cop.

Kiel Bradley:

So the greatest coach that I'm aware of in Gamecock football

Kiel Bradley:

that I've been watching it.

Kiel Bradley:

It's Steve Sprayer.

Kiel Bradley:

So man, hey, we need to get you

Dallas Burnett:

Wow,

Kiel Bradley:

sprayer up in here.

Dallas Burnett:

you get Steve Spurrier.

Dallas Burnett:

All right.

Dallas Burnett:

So I need to get some Steve Spur.

Dallas Burnett:

I'm gonna call Steve or his agent,

Kiel Bradley:

beat button or a mute?

Kiel Bradley:

Like,

Dallas Burnett:

yo boop.

Kiel Bradley:

Hey dude, Dabo and Steve sprayer together.

Dallas Burnett:

Oh wow.

Dallas Burnett:

that would be an interesting conversation, I think.

Dallas Burnett:

Yeah.

Dallas Burnett:

yeah, Sky's the limit.

Dallas Burnett:

I'm gonna reach out to Steve Sprayer.

Dallas Burnett:

I'm gonna say, look, Kyle Bradley says you gotta be on the last 10%.

Kiel Bradley:

Steve.

Dallas Burnett:

I don't see any reason why he would turn us

Kiel Bradley:

What are you doing and you're not doing anything.

Kiel Bradley:

Come on.

Dallas Burnett:

You got extra free time, man.

Dallas Burnett:

Come on.

Dallas Burnett:

Be on the show.

Dallas Burnett:

All right.

Dallas Burnett:

All right.

Dallas Burnett:

that's good.

Dallas Burnett:

hey, thanks again for being on the last 10%.

Dallas Burnett:

Appreciate you, appreciate all you do, appreciate your.

Dallas Burnett:

wealth of knowledge that you just dropped on everybody about the

Dallas Burnett:

1on1's coaching system and how you've been doing it, and it's been great.

Kiel Bradley:

I just appreciate looking at this beautiful 100 year old chair.

Kiel Bradley:

Oh

Dallas Burnett:

man.

Dallas Burnett:

All right.

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